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I was notified of a response to a thread I was subscribed to on Vbulletin.org and I was reading down some of the posts and I ran into this one. So, out of curiosity I clicked the link in his signature because it said, Dear Atheist.... The link actually goes to:

www[dot] talkjesus[dot]com /get-saved-now/15308-dear-atheist.html. Check it out for yourselves.

Anyway, so I took some time to register, tell a little about myself and respond to the post. I filled out my biography and spent about an hour or more there actually filling everything out.

After reading the Dear Atheist... I couldn't help but respond. Immediately after I responded, I was banned. Not just banned, but my IP address was banned and everything so I cannot even see the forum. Here is the reason given:

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You have been banned for the following reason:
Your an atheist. No member intro. Just shot right to debating your prideful views.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Needless to say, wow... :whoa-dude: Go Jesus! I will never do this to any of you. As an administrator, I don't proclaim to be a Christian nor do I claim to love Jesus but I will never just ban you because I fear what you will say. I also value the time that you spend posting on these forums.

So anyway, here is the quotes written by Chad, the administrator of the TalkJesus.com forum along with my response to him that was immediately deleted. I look forward to your opinions on this.

I also did a quick search and found this post which also refers to Christian virtues of this administrator. I find it sad that people proclaiming to follow Jesus Christ are so far away from practicing that which they preach. It's no wonder the Christians have so many enemies in the world today.

Oh, and this is why I don't post on other forums. Smile

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Here's my personal letter to all atheists who deny GOD.

Do you think its a coincidence that...[INDENT]of billions of stars and planets in the many galaxies, only earth has life, and abundance of it?

the sun is 400 times the size of the earth's moon, 400 times further away from earth than the moon, yet they look both proportionally the same size in our sky?

the sun lights the days nicely, while the moon glimmers in the night sweetly and the clouds bring forth rain to water our crops, which bring forth food in your stomach?[/INDENT]

What does this have to do with Atheism? Likewise, what does it have to do with Christianity?

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Do you think its a coincidence that...[INDENT]birds in the air whistle sweet songs and dogs show unconditional love?

your body heals naturally when you cut yourself, or you become sick and it goes away?

humans have intangible senses, called emotions where we feel love, hate, anger, sadness, happiness, shock, confused, hurt, healed, and so forth?[/INDENT]

Again, I don't understand your point. I'm not an atheist but have met some and everything you have said thus far has more to do with balance than anything else. Why would you address this to an Atheist when this is actually something an atheist would not contest. I'm confused and perplexed.

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Do you think its a coincidence that...[INDENT]you were born from a lady's womb and you will die a death, without choice of either?

the complexity of dna is so mind boggling, that scientists worldwide now have gone from 'no god' to claiming a "Divine Creator"?

your body's anatomy is complex, so fine and so articulate that you wonder how this "accident" came to be?[/INDENT]

Yes, we were born. DNA is not mind boggling because DNA is stable and doesn't actually do anything. Proteins in the body actually carry out the functions of the body, not the DNA. The DNA, once uncovered, produces a carbon copy called RNA and thus we have the genetic manifestations.

The question is, what controls the protein or sends the signals to the proteins that encapsulate the DNA layer of the cell?

And again, what does this have to do with Atheism or Christianity?

The body being complex is true. Actually, out of the 50 trillion or so cells with your body, each individual cell has the exact same systems as your physical body, ie: nervous system, endocrine system, waste system, spinal system, senses... etc etc. Who says this is an accident?

There is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists subscribe so I find this to be somewhat stereotypical.

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Do you think its a coincidence that...
[INDENT]there are endless variety of delicious fruits, vegetables, nuts, wheats to make infinite delicious recipes to satisfy our hunger?

there are thousands and thousands of exotic amazing land animals and thousands more amazing sea creatures?

you have eyes so you can see, ears so you can hear, heart so you can feel, mind so you can think?[/INDENT]

Jesus spoke of filling a hunger that cannot be filled with food of the physical world. Jesus needed not eat food after his awakening.

We have senses? Again, there's no disputing this and again I'm not sure what your point is. However, one thing to consider is that it is our senses that you mention that separate us from God. Our thinking is divided into opposing pairs of opposites of one divine being, (God). It's our thinking that creates our reality.

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Do you think its a coincidence that...[INDENT]there are thousands of recovered artifacts proving the validity of Scripture, the Holy Bible itself?

those who have faith in Jesus Christ witness miracles, worldwide?

almost all Old Testament prophecies have been already fulfilled and more continue being fulfilled?[/INDENT]

Ah, validity of scripture. You mean the scripture written by man? There's also ancient writings and artifacts proving the existence of Krishna. There are also countless accounts of way showers throughout history that have also been born of a virgin, died and resurrected after 3 days.

Faith in Christ and witness miracles... Of course. Anything that man embraces as faith and believes can manifest itself into seemingly miracles. It's a miracle that man knows everything and knows the way to heaven without knowing what man is or why he is.

Scriptures fulfilled?... Not sure what you mean here. Scriptures, understand, were written my man claiming to be enlightened by God. Each man that had written the scriptures received information from their own perception of what they believed to be God. It's still written by man.

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Do you think its a coincidence that...
[INDENT]a farmer plants the seeds, yet the farmer does not make the seed grow and the farmer never initially created the seed?

that fruits and vegetables have seeds so that they produce more fruits and vegetables?

your body needs vitamins and nutrients found in GOD's natural foods such as fruits, vegetables, fish, meat, wheat?[/INDENT]

Farmers and seeds. I don't have to be a farmer to plant a seed to know that whatever the seed I plant will produce none other than what that seed actually is. Of course the farmer didn't create the seed, the seed comes from nature and nature is the expression of both love and balance. What does this have to do with atheism and why is it addressed as such?

Your body need NO vitamins and NO nutrients! I've never read anything by Jesus saying such a thing. Our body needs nutrients because we believe it does and fear that if we don't, we will be ill and sick. It's the fear of lack that creates the lack. It's the fear of poverty that manifests poverty. It's the fear of obesity that manifests obesity. It's fear that has been instilled in these people and likewise we've manifested all of the things we fear.

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Do you think its a coincidence that...[INDENT]you just happened to be here on a Christian site reading this letter?[/INDENT]

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Webster defines science as "possession of knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding".

I am a scientist by education and trade (meteorologist), and as such have studied many books ranging from astronomy to geology to physics etc. The one book that I have found that has possessed me with the most knowledge; and has done the most to rid me of "ignorance and misunderstanding" is God's Holy Bible.

Read God's Holy Bible with an open heart and mind and pray for Jesus to save you. Jesus saved a hard case like me, He can also save you.

We as Christians should pray for Biowza that his eye's will be opened and that he will obtain true knowledge.

I disagree with this completely. Knowledge is not something you can remember and repeat. Knowledge is not something you'll find within a book or on a forum. True knowledge and knowledge of truth can only come from the divine inspiration of God. Sure you can pick up some books and read them and fill your head with something someone else has written and experienced but to call this knowledge... ??

It's not Biowza who's eyes need to be opened. Pray for yourself because all men will come to know the kingdom of God when they are ready. We as men tend to see faults in others when the faults in others are merely a reflection of the faults within ourselves. The problems are not with Biowza and if we think they are, that's due to our own afflictions.

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You are right but I think she said that due to the lies I exposed previously of Biowza's motives. Read my post about his profile, not to mention how he continually refused to answer very important questions such as "can you refute miracles performed by GOD, etc..." He did not come to learn about GOD but to mock Him instead.

If this isn't what's commonly referred to as EGO, I don't know what is. Expose the lies within yourself and find the truth within yourself and you'll soon see Christ within others.

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Then again, we should be Christ-like no matter what. Like a lion (stern, truthful) and like a lamb (humble, loving).

This takes practice. We can all preach and identify with the problems we see in others but to be Christ-like is to be born into the spirit of Christ. To transcend to the level of conscious awakening to know that the second coming of the Christ is the Christ ressurrected within mankind. It's not a deity separate and in a far away land of milk and honey.

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Atheism: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes perfect sense. <-- Hey, I like that!!

Atheism is non Theism. It's not that they don't believe in God or that they believe in the big bang, they just don't believe in the same God you do. This comment is very Christ-like. Why call yourself a Christian just to show others what Christ would not do?

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It's always been a burden for me to pray for atheists.

Then pray for yourself. You need not pray for anyone else.

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For all atheists out there, know that you should humble yourselves, knowing that you are just mere humans, unable to grasp EVERY possible knowledge and treating yourselves like gods. You always ask the reason "why" in a never-ending manner, skeptically attempting to resolve every God-given mystery using three pound worth of a human brain. The truth is, you will never succeed. God reigns more than your life, more than the world, more than science that you worship, even the big bang theory that is simply self-defeating. His ways are higher than ours, and so His thoughts. So don't even try to box the almighty God into your human knowledge.

Mere humans? Humble?

Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye. - Luke 6:42

In closing I found these words which I hope will inspire:[INDENT]To bring blessing on yourself, bless your neighbor.
To enrich yourself, enrich your neighbors.
Honor your neighbor and your neighbor will honor you.
To sorely hurt yourself, hurt your neighbor.
He who seeks love will find it by giving it.
The measure of a man's wealth, is the measure of the of the wealth he has given.
To enrich your yourself with many friends, enrich your friends with yourself.
That which you take away from any man, the world will take away from you.
When you take the first step to give yourself to that which you want, it will also take the first step to give itself to you.
Peace and happiness do not come to you from your horizon. They spread from you out to infinity beyond your horizon.
The whole Universe is a mirror which reflects back to you, that which you reflect into it.
Love is like the ascent of a high mountain peak. It comes ever nearer to you as you go ever nearer to it.

Above written by Lao Russell
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@Justin,

Often, atheists defile the word of Christ, in order to make Christianity look bad. Do not be fooled by such false prophets. By the sounds of things, that was a cult, or idol worship. Most agnostics, and many who call themselves atheists do so, ironically, because of false prophets. Its an old trick. Like the one political party sending out leaflets in the name of the other, that make the other look excessively liberal or excessively conservative.

Christ said "I am the truth"

Thus;
most philosophers are on the road to Jesus more than they realise, and many churches are nothing more than idol-worshippers. Just as in the time of Christ, it was the good samaritan who was near God, and the Rabbi, who was only concerned with himself.

;-j

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@Poseidon,

Well with Christians like the above, where does Jesus fit into the picture. I received an email from Chad, this is what he said:

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You're not a Christian anyway. You're a snake. If you truly love Jesus, you would glorify Him not your own worldy views.

This amazes me completely. It's no wonder America is at war and we have all kinds of radicalism in the world. Are people really this stupid? Am I living in a box?

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@Justin,

What did you say to elicit that response?
I logged in and tried to introduce myself, and was not allowed to post or start a thread.

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His ways are higher than ours, and so His thoughts. So don't even try to box the almighty God into your human knowledge.

Um? Is this not such a box?
The blind leadeth the blind!

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@Poseidon,

Poseidon wrote:

What did you say to elicit that response?
I logged in and tried to introduce myself, and was not allowed to post or start a thread.

I said:

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Chad,

Good work my friend. That's what Jesus would do.

God Bless You!

This bothers me. I was raised Christian and my own parents will hardly speak to me. I shouldn't let this stuff bother me but it's a prime example of the state of our world and the state of our nation. It's no wonder why there are radical muslims wanting to do away with these radical Christians. I can see why. Not that I agree with either one but the percentage of people who follow Jesus Christ without knowing the Sermon on the Mount is perplexing. Jesus and the teachings of Jesus were an example. What is wrong with this world? What is wrong with me?

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@Justin,

Wow,

I can't say I'm terribly surprised, but such fundamentalism will never cease to amaze me. It's sad... wouldn't such devils be the very people they'd want to embrace and bring into the fold? We've... such a long way to go. Little has changed, for many, in the last few thousand years.

I've seen in the last decade (perhaps less, maybe 5 years or so) an increasing amount of this vicious sort such as you found. It's as if the pendulum is swinging towards a deeper chasm between the mindsets (who was it? Was it William that was talking about 'the rift' between these opposing views?). To this day, I get tons of emails that could only be called propaganda. The folks who send these are good people! Really! But if they knew where my theology lay, I'd be summarily cut off.

Thanks for passing this along. Those who love their fellow human, absent of such bias, applaud ye efforts!

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@Khethil,

Fascinating, depressing, and all-round...disappointing.

But I guess that's why God created more than one forum Wink

After all, is it a coincidence that the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow and this forum exists for those of us priveleged enough to know of its existence???? It MUST be the work of God.

And I'll personally ban anyone who thinks otherwise...or heck, even questions it! Wink

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@madel,

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What is wrong with this world? What is wrong with me?

You are being crucified, oh child of Christ!

This is exactly what Jesus went through.
He preached orthodox Judaism,
he got nailed to a tree,
and called a God!

Its the little egos, that are envious of your ability to add depth of meaning to religion.
Some people have to come last in class.
They then give up on pursuing rationality,
as it makes them feel inadequate.

They really are children at heart.

Its sad. I think that more effort should be made to
help such people get through their learning blocks.

But the church offers them a safety net.
Such is the world

:surrender:

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@Poseidon,

I have had similar experiences with theology forums, forums where radical Christians dominate. Radical Christianity seems to be the dominant strain today.

People prefer to be lead and they abhor thinking for themselves. Instead of reading scripture on their own terms, they devour the dangerous ideology of televangelists and rabble-rousing ministers. At least here, on this forum, we enjoy the freedom to disagree.

Poseidon - Jesus did not teach orthodox Judaism. The God of Jesus is not the War God found in parts of the Old Testament.

Also, I do not think calling these ideologues children is helpful, or even accurate. Fundamentalism and extremism has causes, and the causes are not simply that all the idiots have grouped together. In many cases very bright individuals have been consumed by radical religious propaganda.

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@Didymos Thomas,

I am sure that no one would deny the right of an association of individuals to choose its Members and to establish criteria for inclusion, however silly those standards might be.

Unfortunately, this case illustrates Sartre's position that fear of truth goes hand-in-hand with the fear of freedom, and just as unfortunately, in a way, this attitude on the part of some enthusiastic sects sullies the majority of those who call themselves Christians.

We might possibly excuse the ignorant because they lack the resources for education or the proper tutors, but it is another thing entirely to excuse purposeful and active ignore-ance.

While the practice of philosophy needs no justification, it has served mankind well by fighting propaganda (of all kinds) whose goal is always to counterfeit reason to defeat reason.

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@Poseidon,

Justin,
You found a "control freak". Please do not associate what is going on on that website as being a true Christian Site. It is not. This yo-yo is a real goof ball and that forum is his domain in which he runs with a master/slave mentality. That's his "domain" . He has no clue what Christianity is all about. But he did give you fair warning. It's his way or the highway, so to speak.
He made that perfectly clear in the "forum rules" which I have copied below:

"Talk Jesus is mainly about two things. Praising Jesus Christ and sharing Truth with others. It is not for speaking against Scripture simply because you are in disbelief. If you disagree with the Word of GOD, please leave unless you came to learn the Truth as told by GOD in Scripture. If you are an unbeliever, it is likely you've been led here by GOD so you may learn about His love for you found in Jesus Christ alone.
Talk Jesus is Not a Debate Forum
You get a simple warning via private message if you break a rule. Please respect the community. Its a privilege to be here, not a right. You get banned immediately if you curse, insult someone else, preach anything outside of Scripture purposely.
Warning
I take harassment seriously. If you are here to cause trouble, remember every action is literally recorded and logged. Do not assume you can hide behind "proxies" or get away with wrongdoings. GOD is watching your every move. Be wise, respectful and humble yourself. You know your intentions and I know mine."

In my travel's most of the antagonism I have received as I have tried to close the gap between Atheist and Theists has come from the "preachers'", not the Christian's themselves. Most of those are very passive, but there are exceptions as is with anything. I am of the opinion most Christian's, are secretly more agnostic than anything, but they will never in a million years admit to it.IMHO. They go to Church primarily for the fellowship and the peace of mind it offers. That's where "religion" get's it true "power". Believe it or not, it works. If it didn't 85% of the world would not participate in it, regardless of the hell thing and all. That's what most don't understand about the hold religion has on those of faith.

Preacher's on the other hand are much less cordial especially if one threatens their "meal ticket". That is a sad statement to make, but unfortunately, it is very true. You found a real kook.

William

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@William,

Wow, that's pretty incredible. If Jesus had acted anything like that guy, we would never have heard of Jesus at all. Not that Jesus was all warm fuzzies and rounded edges, but Jesus had two things I don't see at all from this guy's response... Jesus was (1)loving, even when harsh, and (2)personally secure in who he was and what he believed. This poor guy demonstrated neither.

Since I call myself a Christian (even though it's hard a times like this), I'd like to apologize to Justin (and everyone else). Unfortunately many of us have done a poor job at living what we profess to believe.

-Luke

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@Justin,

Yeah, George Bush is a Christian too. LOL. It's sad to say that this is the type of Christian that has created the Radical Muslims and truthfully, I can't blame those people in Iraq, Iran and other countries for wanting to do away with this type of stuff. I easily see why Christians are hated across the world. I don't hate them but I'm darn sure beginning to wonder why anybody wouldn't.

Jesus Christ would be appalled by men like this using his name... that's blasphemy if I've ever seen it.

"I'm a simple single man trying my best to do GOD's will and serve Him daily" - Chad at TalkJesus.com

Here, I want to include Chad's Statement of Faith because I think it's important and if nothing else, maybe some of these people that he's got the wool pulled over their eyes will actually read this. I've sent him an email asking his for a "Christian Response" and directed him to this thread but he's never showed up. If you want to read some real bull****, read this:

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Written by Chad, Administrator at TalkJesus.com

Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. John 7:16,17

Inspiration of Scriptures
I believe that the Holy Bible is the written Word of the Living God. I believe it was inspired by the Holy Spirit and recorded by holy men of old. It is infallible in content and a perfect treasure of heavenly instruction which is truth without any mixture of error. The Bible reveals the principles by which God will judge us and reveals His great plan of salvation. It will remain eternally. I believe the Bible is the true center of Christian union and the supreme standard by which all human conduct, creeds, and opinions should be tried. Therefore, I believe this Word should go into all the world and should be given first place in every believer's life (2 Timothy 3:16; Hebrews 4:12; 1 Peter 1:23-25; and 2 Peter 1:19-21).

Bible Teaches About Jesus

Deity (Matthew 16:16,17 and John 1:1).

Humanity (Hebrews 2:18 and 4:15).

Virgin Birth (Luke 1:26-38).

Sinless Life (Hebrews 4:15).

His Life (John 10:10) is to be expressed through new creatures in Christ, by faith (Colossians 3:3-4).

Miracles (Luke 4:18, Various Scriptures.).

His death reconciled us to God (Romans 5:10).

His Life through us, by faith, empowers us to live the life that overcomes (Romans 5:10).

Unique ability to regenerate man(John 3:5,6,16,17, Titus 3:5, I Peter 1:23).

Bodily resurrection (John 20:27,28, Romans 4:24, 6:4, I Corinthians 15:1-8).

Ascension to the right hand of the Father (Ephesians 1:20).

Return to earth in power and glory (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:11-19).

God
I believe in one God revealed in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost...making up the blessed Trinity (Matthew 3:16,17; 1 John 5:6,7).

Man
I believe that man, in his natural state, is a sinner- lost, undone, without hope, and without God(Romans 3:19-23; Galatians 3:22; Ephesians 2:1,2,12).

Salvation
I believe the terms of salvation are repentance toward God for sin and a personal, heartfelt faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. This is how the new birth occurs, which I call being "born again." Salvation is possible only through God's grace, not by our works. Works are simply the fruit of salvation (Acts 3:19,20; Romans 4:1-5, 5:1; Ephesians 2:8-10). Water Baptism should immediately follow the experience of the new birth as a public witness to one's faith (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38).

Body of Christ
I believe the Body of Christ is made up of all who have been "born again" regardless of denominational differences. I believe in the spirit of unity, while allowing for variety in individual ministries as to their work, calling, and location as directed by the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:34,35; 1 Corinthians 12:12-31).

Blood Atonement
I believe in the saving power of the blood of Jesus and His imputed righteousness (Acts 4:12; Romans 4:1-9, 5:1-11; Ephesians 1:3-14).

Bodily Resurrection
I believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ (Luke 24:39-43; John 20:24-29).

Ascension
I believe that Christ Jesus ascended to the Father and is presently engaged in building a place for us in His Kingdom and interceding for the saints (John 14:2,3; Romans 8:34).

Second Coming
I believe in the visible, bodily return of Christ Jesus to this earth, to meet His Church (Bride) and to judge the world (Acts 1:10,11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10; James 5:8; Revelation 1:7).

Ordinances
I believe that the two ordinances of the Body of Christ are water baptism and the Lord's Supper (Matthew 28:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24-26).

Heaven and Hell
I believe Scripture clearly sets forth the doctrines of eternal punishment for the lost and eternal bliss and service for the saved -- a literal hell for the unsaved and Heaven for the saved (Matthew 25:34,41,46; Luke 16:19-31; John 14:1-3; Revelation 20:11-15).

Holy Spirit
I believe the Holy Spirit to be the third person of the Trinity whose purpose in the redemption of man is to convict of sin, regenerate the repentant believer, guide the believer into all truth, indIll all believers, and give gifts to those He wills that they may minister as Christ would to men. I believe that the manifestations of the Holy Spirit recorded in1 Corinthians 12:1-11 will operate through present-day Christians who yield to Jesus(Luke 11:13; John 7:37-39, 14:16,17, 16:7-14; Acts 2:1-18).

Baptism
I believe the baptism in the Holy Spirit, with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance (1 Corinthians 14), is for all believers as promised by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:11), Jesus (Acts 1:4-8), and Peter(Acts 2:38-41). The fulfillment of this promise was witnessed by early disciples of Christ (Acts 2:4, 10:44-47, 19:1-6) and operates in many present-day disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Divine Healing
I believe God has used doctors, medicines, and other natural means as channels of healing; however, I believe divine healing is provided for believers in the atonement made by Jesus' blood shed on the cross (Isaiah 53:5; 1 Peter 2:24). I believe divine healing may be received by the laying on of hands by the elders (James 5:14-16), by the prayer of an anointed person gifted by the Holy Spirit for healing the sick (1 Corinthians 12:9), or by a direct act of receiving this provision by faith(Mark 11:23,24).

About Talk Jesus
Talk Jesus is an online church, a body of believers that gather to fellowship, praise and worship our Lord Savior Jesus Christ, GOD Himself. It is not about debating Scripture for Scripture is the infallible Word of GOD. It is Truth from Almighty GOD, the Alpha and the Omega. The power of Scripture, aka Truth speaks for itself so there is no opinion of man or debate among them that may, could or shall disturb the Way of Truth.

Talk Jesus forums are not meant to be a replacment of your local church but a replacement of any online ungodly place that satan may lead you to. Talk Jesus is a site that has one main purpose; to Glorify GOD. Within that purpose comes preaching the Gospels, the Truth to the saved to build up their faith, the unsaved to reach their hearts with the love of Christ so that they may be saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus Christ.

God bless you all!
Your Brother in Christ,
Chad Abizeid

"Online ungodly place that Satan may lead you to"... What a joke. This is a con job based on fear.

My message to the Christians:

If this is an example of Christianity and this is an example of Jesus, maybe it's time you started to actually read that bible you so often quote.

Message to Chad:

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. - Matthew 7:15

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@Justin,

`Do not assume you can hide behind "proxies" or get away with wrongdoings. GOD is watching your every move.`

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH

....

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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someone go post this on their forum

YouTube - The Atheist Delusion

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@ariciunervos,

The above post/youtube represents the thought of the majority in the United States-- they might as well be sniffing glue. They cannot be committed, there are simply to many of them. :shocked:

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@boagie,

Maybe some satire and ridicule will open some eyes ... Lots of interesting videos like the one above here : YouTube - EdwardCurrent's Videos like "An Atheist Meets God" or "Proving the Power of Prayer" and a really good one "People's Religion Should Be Respected".

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@Justin,

I've had a good time at talkjesus, since joining. Lots of positive caring people.

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@Justin,

Glad you have Poseidon. There are positive and caring people in all forums. From my experience of the administration of TalkJesus.com, the administrator, based on the first post and his response... his statement of faith,... he's not a follower of Jesus Christ. Not the Jesus Christ I know that taught the Sermon on the Mount.

He has a hosting company called LogicWeb which claim to be a 'Christian' hosting company. Christians tend to lead Christians just because they claim to be christians. Much of it involves money. I did some quick research and found some interesting stuff. Apparently this isn't the first time he's treated people bad. Take a look at this link.

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"Currently Virtuoso Net Solutions hosts over 25,000 domains worldwide. Our success is made possible by GOD and our loyal customers.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."

these guys shouldn't use God to promote their filth... after reading through many threads these guys don't appear Godly. They need to be attacked by small children with sticks of spaghetti for sure.

I found the above on that post. There are people who use God and Christianity to lure unsuspecting, caring and loving people that seek out Christian services. Christianity is a good front for the generation of money.

Here's something else I found:

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Chad Abizeid of Virtuosonetsolutions.com is a fine example of the above statement.

Some of his 'professionalism' techniques include...
1) Abusing customers in technical support tickets/emails
2) Being exceptionally helpfull to customers before (and only before) they sign up
3) Suspending customers accounts and firewalling their IP from the entire Virtuoso site
4) Not answering the phone
5) Allegedly submitting 'fake' testimonials and reviews
6) Failing to allow access to backups after suspending accounts. See Larceny or Theft
7) Offering little or no refunds to customers who wish to cancel
8) Providing 'less than advertised/agreed' hardware to customers
9) Allegedly stealing domains from customers/ex-friends

Virtuoso Net Solutions: Perhaps your calling me a liar then?
James Kelley: I sure am.
Virtuoso Net Solutions: Good I'm glad.
Virtuoso Net Solutions: Go find another hosting provider......
The link to the full post is here.

Here, take a look at what this guy had to say:

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I have had individuals threaten to sue me in the past. Some even threatened my hosting provider as well as my very livelihood (see threat here). Most notably is the con artist(s) from Premadewebsitetemplates.com (view Investigative Report). Thanks to the deceptive owner of Premadewebsitetemplates.com owner (Robert Mullaney), my hosting account was terminated by Histyle Internet Solutions (AKA iKiwi). The last hosting company I was with (Virtuoso Net Solutions) was a complete joke. The owner, Chad Abizeid, is a very childish and unprofessional individual that talks down to his customers and treats them like dirt. Thanks to the way he treated me and the way I was treated by Histyle, I one day hope to start up a hosting business dedicated to those looking for reliable, quality, hosting space for free speech advocates.
The link to the full post is here.

So based on the above and a quick search, I don't think Jesus would approve of using the cloak of Christianity yet acting far from that of a Christian. What is to gain by faking to be a christian?... $$ MONEY.

Needless to say, Virtuoso Net Solutions Inc. - Chad Abizeid changed his name to LogicWeb. Here's why:

webhostingstuff.com - Horrible service
Woodsy.org Post - Read the first paragraph then part 1
Webhosting Talk - the starred out text is virtuosonetsolutions.com
Now LogicWeb.com - "I am sure there are other posts. I think they used to go by a similar name, but it might not be the same company"
"Stay away if you can, this is a one man company with bat temper and poor support. Servers fails all the time.
When asking for support you are called stupid/clown/idiot.
Do a search on what and you'll see some examples of unseen support service, very very bad."
Ripoff Report
Sitepoint Forums

Here are some random quotes found:

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I really have to take a deep breath because signing up with this compnay has been a nightmare. I'm not kidding. Support terrible. I've been cut off from accessing my website. I was lucky to backup my site and leave before being shut down but Chad hacked into my new host and shut my website down repeqtedly. Make sure you change your password. Also change your creditcard number as well.

Quote:

John Peterson, 20th 2006f December, 2006 Horrible Customer support! Stay AWAY! Chad is bipolar!! A One man company.

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GET OUT OF THERE

This is the worst web-host you can ever work with.

They have the rudest support team. TEAM?? sorry my mistake. This is a one man job.

This guy Chad is SO roof and the words POLITE and HONESTY are not in his dictionary.

If you ever ask him why did this happen, he will disconnect your website without any notice.

The most important thing is that you have to check your credit card statement because this guy is a professional THIEF.

I really hope that he goes out of his business.

So, the moral of the story is... is this what Christianity has become? There's much more but I don't have the time to dedicate to it. Based on what I've read, his response to me fits his M.O..

Based on what I've researched in 15 minutes about this guy, he could have the best forum in the world and me and my family wouldn't go near it because he obviously does not practice what he preaches. To lure people in behind the curtain of Christianity... although not uncommon, it's a sad world we live in.

If TalkJesus.com is right for you, the so be it. :rolleyes:

Oh, I forgot... The moral of the story:

[CENTER]What Would Jesus Do?
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@Justin,

Justin wrote:

[CENTER]What Would Jesus Do?
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... probably be ashamed at what many, who've taken on work in his name, have become.

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@Justin,

Whew!

I only posted a few times, and did not chat to him at all. But I certainly will keep my eyes open. I went in as a kind of guinea pig, based on your experience. (I think I was a crash test dummy in a past life).

Now I want to go back to see if the same thing happens to me. There certainly were a few peculiarities, the donation part is very prominantly displayed; and when I could not at first post, it said something like 'You cannot post, are you trying to edit someone elses post?' Then I had to wait for special permission to post.

But I think that a lot of troubled people turn to Christianity, and its important to keep in mind that Christ is a spirit of redemption for troubled people.

All your points are carefully noted. Thanks Justin.

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