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Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

 
 
Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 04:04 am
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by BARBARA BRADLEY HAGERTY


"Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible," [Religious historian Philip Jenkin] says.

Jenkins is a professor at Penn State University and author of two books dealing with the issue: the recently published Jesus Wars, and Dark Passages , which has not been published but is already drawing controversy.

"By the standards of the time, which is the 7th century A.D., the laws of war that are laid down by the Quran are actually reasonably humane," he says. "Then we turn to the Bible, and we actually find something that is for many people a real surprise. There is a specific kind of warfare laid down in the Bible which we can only call genocide."

It is called herem, and it means total annihilation. Consider the Book of 1 Samuel, when God instructs King Saul to attack the Amalekites: "And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."

When Saul failed to do that, God took away his kingdom.

"In other words," Jenkins says, "Saul has committed a dreadful sin by failing to complete genocide. And that passage echoes through Christian history. It is often used, for example, in American stories of the confrontation with Indians " not just is it legitimate to kill Indians, but you are violating God's law if you do not."

Jenkins notes that the history of Christianity is strewn with herem. During the Crusades in the Middle Ages, the Catholic popes declared the Muslims Amalekites. In the great religious wars in the 16th, 17th and 19th centuries, Protestants and Catholics each believed the other side were the Amalekites and should be utterly destroyed.

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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 06:15 am
@tsarstepan,
The Good News Bible focuses on the New Testament out of embarrasement at those ideas. The old testament has been used to justify slavery and as you pointed out, genocide.

I think any comparison between the religions should include Judaism as it is their story you are referring to directly. That Christians used it is fact. They dont use it now. Muslims have a far more violent beginning the Christianity. They conquered to spread the word, wheras Christians were feared for being pasifists who wouldnt defend the empire.

That soon changed. The wars in Italy turned the Pope into a lord of the realm and he instituted wars with great enthusiasm at a time when Islam had fought civil wars and was becoming an advanced centre for learning. The Jews never had any power after the dispersion and were thrown out of europe depending on how much money they had lent the local christian king.

The more they lent, the more likely they were to be repaid by exile. They were almost always taken in by the muslims.

So historically, the religions of the desert are all tainted, and I dont think anyone can claim superiority over another. They have all had their turn at violence.
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