fresco wrote:
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Gurdjieff argued that we spend most of our time in "waking sleep" even when we assume we are "conscious". He said that "cosmic forces" conspire against us and keep us asleep for their own ends !
Well..even if we don't beat a path to Gurdjieff's door (which many intellectuals actually did) we can say that he observed that "philosophical thought" was often an illusive commodity. Indeed, Maslow's celebrated "hierarchy of needs" implies that such activity comes right at the end the list of requirements for "everyday life", and it may be that we must either reject such a "life" for a monastic existence, or as Westerners, have the luxury of having most of our "lower needs" fulfilled by or maerial wealth, in order to indulge in "philosophy".
The last bit of your post is pretty ironic when we contrast it against the general picture of western society we gain by listening to it's largest voice (the media).
I understand the 'waking sleep' state from the courses you advised for me, Fresco.
(I would say I am rarely out of this state, apart from perhaps when I am actually asleep).
This is the question i voiced that didn't really get answered (perhaps because it is a question from a 'little me' not an 'enlightened I')-
What state do you think most western philosophers were in when they wrote most of their great works? Envisage Nietzsche in his little rented room writing whatever work- I'm sure he would have been in a 'waking sleep' state rather than anything 'greater.'
Therefore, what is the purpose of the 'higher' state?