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Substitute Teachers Not Seen Eye to Eye

 
 
Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 11:34 am
Why are substitute teachers not seen eye to eye in the school system? In New York City, sub teachers are treated badly at every school by regular teachers, main office staff and students. Why is this the case?
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:13 pm
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Why are substitute teachers not seen eye to eye in the school system?


I have no idea what that phrase "eye to eye" means.

As for your contention that subs "are treated badly," I'm not quite sure what you mean by that either. The kids, of course, will take advantage of a substitute teacher and treat him/her "badly." Didn't you do that when you were a student? I did. I mean, you know that this guy is here today, gone tomorrow or the day after. You're not going to be on your best behavior the way you would be with the regular teacher. Why? Because you can get away with it, that's why.

As for regular teachers and office staff, the situation is somewhat similar. You're not part of the team nor will you ever be. You're just passing through.

I've substitute taught, so I know what you're talking about. The only difference between you and me is that I never expected anything different. Get over it.
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:25 pm
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The kids, of course, will take advantage of a substitute teacher and treat him/her "badly."

Not me (when I was a kid). I remember when I was in junior highschool and there was this sub named Mr. Hruska (what kind of name is that?) - anyway- I'd be sitting in English or French or Social Studies ready for the same old, same old - and he'd come walking through the door - and it would just be amazing...I'd get really excited suddenly for English or French or Social Studies (he was really cute).

But seriously, I think a short-term sub (someone just in the class for the day) should just opt for discussions (in jr. or sr. highschool) somewhere along the continuum of the subject matter at hand, because MA's right - otherwise the kids will just make the sub's life miserable using every diversion and distraction they can think of to make the time-frame disappear in the most amusing and least productive way possible.
Of course, if you're a long term sub (maternity leave or something like that) that's not cool - you have to somehow get them to buckle down and learn something so the eight or nine weeks is not a total loss.

In my opinion - subbing is harder than having your own class - you have to use someone else's plans and slot yourself into someone else's niche. I subbed one time for someone and after that I figured I'd rather mow lawns or something. Too much aggravation and not very much tangible reward, monetary or otherwise.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 07:25 am
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and there was this sub named Mr. Hruska (what kind of name is that?)

Czechoslovakian
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 07:31 am
I thought so - he was very Eastern European looking and very handsome.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 04:50 pm
Merry Andrew wrote:

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Why are substitute teachers not seen eye to eye in the school system?


I have no idea what that phrase "eye to eye" means.

As for your contention that subs "are treated badly," I'm not quite sure what you mean by that either. The kids, of course, will take advantage of a substitute teacher and treat him/her "badly." Didn't you do that when you were a student? I did. I mean, you know that this guy is here today, gone tomorrow or the day after. You're not going to be on your best behavior the way you would be with the regular teacher. Why? Because you can get away with it, that's why.

As for regular teachers and office staff, the situation is somewhat similar. You're not part of the team nor will you ever be. You're just passing through.

I've substitute taught, so I know what you're talking about. The only difference between you and me is that I never expected anything different. Get over it.


I expect respect regardless of title or job position. People should be treated with respect just for being people. By the way, I never mistreated a sub teacher. I come from a Christian home where biblical values and respect are taught all the time.
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 04:53 pm
aidan wrote:

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The kids, of course, will take advantage of a substitute teacher and treat him/her "badly."

Not me (when I was a kid). I remember when I was in junior highschool and there was this sub named Mr. Hruska (what kind of name is that?) - anyway- I'd be sitting in English or French or Social Studies ready for the same old, same old - and he'd come walking through the door - and it would just be amazing...I'd get really excited suddenly for English or French or Social Studies (he was really cute).

But seriously, I think a short-term sub (someone just in the class for the day) should just opt for discussions (in jr. or sr. highschool) somewhere along the continuum of the subject matter at hand, because MA's right - otherwise the kids will just make the sub's life miserable using every diversion and distraction they can think of to make the time-frame disappear in the most amusing and least productive way possible.
Of course, if you're a long term sub (maternity leave or something like that) that's not cool - you have to somehow get them to buckle down and learn something so the eight or nine weeks is not a total loss.

In my opinion - subbing is harder than having your own class - you have to use someone else's plans and slot yourself into someone else's niche. I subbed one time for someone and after that I figured I'd rather mow lawns or something. Too much aggravation and not very much tangible reward, monetary or otherwise.


After subbing for 8 years, I've learned that subbing is harder than teaching your own class. Like you said: "...subbing is harder than having your own class - you have to use someone else's plans and slot yourself into someone else's niche."
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