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Should NASA go to Mars or back to the Moon?

 
 
View Profile BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 05:30 pm
The relative gravity of Mars is 38% of one G (the force of "gravity" on our planet at sea level). My plan to use snowballs from Saturn would have the one drawback that you'd need to keep cartin' the shit in. It's not the gravity well which is responsible for the thin atmosphere on Mars, it's the lack of a magnetic field. The solar wind is a serious bitch if you don't have some really mega-sun block . . .
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In term of human life times or even 10s of thousands of years off hand I do not think that any large part of the atmosphere would leak away solar wind or no solar wind or a lower g field then earth.

Hit Mars with some big water full comets and I do not think you would need to repeat it for perhaps a few 100s thousands years even.

If some one could loan me access to a super computer for a few months I might be able to give you a better idea then that however.
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2009 05:25 am
Mars AND Moon out of reach
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2009 10:16 pm
"We think to go direct to Mars with today's technology and money is riskier than we would want to be associated with," Augustine said. "It would likely not succeed."

Of the 237 men who set out on five ships to circumnavigate the earth in 1519, only 18 completed the circumnavigation of the globe and managed to return to Spain in 1522. They were led by the Basque navigator Juan Sebastián Elcano, who took over command of the expedition after Magellan's death. (wiki)

That fool shoulda stayed home too, obviously.

We'll get there soon I think, but I doubt it'll be America.
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 06:17 am
The motivation to circle the globe and find new land was obviously greater than the motivation to go to Mars. At least when you discover new land on Earth it's already terraformed and ready for exploitation Wink It's like free money.
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 07:36 am
Don't forget spreading the word of god . . . that's was a big deal to them boys . . .
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 07:38 am
It's good to see reason returning to NASA.
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 07:40 am
You mean NASA's gonna spread the word of god on Mars?
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 07:44 am
Bill -- I somehow missed your explanation when you posted it. It makes sense now, thank you very much.
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 07:46 am
Setanta wrote:
Don't forget spreading the word of god . . . that's was a big deal to them boys . . .

Maybe the church should fund the trip to Mars. If they find microbes up there then they can actually guide their evolution into God-Fearing future Martians who will be genetically compelled to give their money to the church.
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 07:51 am
No. Obama won't extend NASA's budget, so they won't be able to do that now. Further proof he's a Muslim.
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 10:24 am
Thomas wrote:
No. Obama won't extend NASA's budget, so they won't be able to do that now. Further proof he's a Muslim.

I knew it.
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 01:54 pm
Eorl wrote:

"We think to go direct to Mars with today's technology and money is riskier than we would want to be associated with," Augustine said. "It would likely not succeed."

Of the 237 men who set out on five ships to circumnavigate the earth in 1519, only 18 completed the circumnavigation of the globe and managed to return to Spain in 1522. They were led by the Basque navigator Juan Sebastián Elcano, who took over command of the expedition after Magellan's death. (wiki)

That fool shoulda stayed home too, obviously.

We'll get there soon I think, but I doubt it'll be America.


Not with that kind of attitude - who the hell is Augustine anyway? - but I have hopes we'll find better NASA managers than this particular clown soon. Btw, if you see the plan (by Buzz Aldrin) I linked to earlier on this thread, it doesn't allow for return to Earth: rather, the astronauts are expected to be colonizers in Mars.

Most of the risk and expense is in coming back, not getting there.

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Reply Wed 19 Aug, 2009 11:33 am
LOL Thomas - was quickly scanning old posts and misread your comment as "...he (Obama) is a Martian".

Good article in new Economist:
http://media.economist.com/images/na/2009w34/Space2.jpg
http://www.economist.com/daily/news/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14256807
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