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Not only gentlemen prefer blondes

 
 
aidan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:02 am
@spendius,
What are you talking about?!
He doesn't have a wife - he had two 'partners' at two different times and each of them bore him a daughter. As far as I know, he didn't marry either of the women and he may not have even lived with either of them. He DID name one of his daughters Rebecca though - her mother's choice, not his-he was quick to tell me. His other daughter is named Kitty - not Katherine or Catherine- but Kitty - that was his choice. Interesting, huh?
And he does have regular medical check-ups - in fact he has standing appointments on Monday and Friday afternoons for skin cancer treatments.
I however, don't know that they check for any misogynistic lesions or traces.

There will be no romantic entanglements here. He's an artist - he lives in Hastings - he likes my photographs and wants to do a painting from one of them. I have asked him, because he is an extremely literate sort, if he will look at my photographs of England and suggest excerpts from poems and literature to go with each one because I am making a book of them for my mother - so she can get see some small part of what I see.
That's the extent of our relationship.
You could help me with the same thing if you would...a lot of you English guys seem to be very literate.
Is that a racist thing to say?

And I don't call people names until I know for sure they deserve the name being applied to them.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:10 am
There are two definitions of "gentlemen" that I know of.

1-A chap who takes he's weight on his elbows.

2-A chap who takes the pots out of the sink before pissing in it.

And nobody can be called a gentleman who prefers blondes or redheads or straight white teeth or a certain breast confomation or any damn thing at all. A gentleman does his duty in whatever circumstances he gets himself into. Buck-teeth, freckles, fat legs, baggy jeans, big noses, chubby fingers &Co notwithstanding.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:16 am
@spendius,
a mr. bill bragg said this in a popular song

"i've had relations, with girls from many nations
i've made passes, at women from all classes"*




*i personally can't advocate any of the other sentiments brought up in the song, but i defend anyones right to do so

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aidan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:09 am
@spendius,
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A gentleman does his duty in whatever circumstances he gets himself into. Buck-teeth, freckles, fat legs, baggy jeans, big noses, chubby fingers &Co notwithstanding.



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing All in the same woman? And what's wrong with freckles?
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:11 am
@aidan,
nothing, freckles are sexy
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:41 am
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And what's wrong with freckles?


Possible actinic keratosis, latent skin cancer .
aidan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:49 am
@Miller,
Oh geez - well I'm in big trouble then - as are the majority of redheads in the world.
But I think moving to England was probably the best thing I could have done in terms of my skin's health - I get much less sun exposure here than I used to get in the US.
But I've always been careful with my skin - so I think my latent skin cancer will stay latent.

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Ryann
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 01:21 am
@aidan,
That post was supposed to be to Pamela..oops.
We have racism and sexism tendencies as animals do, so we are no better than any animal and no more intelligent, I think that is sad.
aidan
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 01:38 am
@Ryann,
Well yes, but I think that a lot of humans are able to understand why it's a good thing to try and curb their racist or sexist tendencies - while animals are not.

I think we are more intelligent than animals (in some ways - use of language and tools for instance), but that intelligence is a double-edged sword- it can be used for good AND bad.

It's debatable as to whether we are any BETTER than any animal though.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 02:04 pm
@aidan,
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but I think that a lot of humans are able to understand why it's a good thing to try and curb their racist or sexist tendencies


And some think otherwise. The curbing of our natural tendencies, that is those created by evolutionary forces, is the principle upon which asceticism is founded. The psychologists would call it neurotic. It is the theme of Civilisation and Its Discontents I think. The ascetic having come to be the common label for extremists.

The nun enters the convent not to be made virtuous but to avoid turning to vice and its consequences.

It is the most fascinating of all subjects. Is there a serious work of literature which is not concerned with the matter? One cyclotron is the same as any other cyclotron and there's not a lot interest whether one can accelerate atomic particles 0.1% faster than another when both are going at a rate the human mind cannot imagine. Snail racing is more interesting than that.

Society demands the compromise and has to deal with what it causes under certain circumstances. The judicial system and the medical profession being the main agents in that process when the compromise breaks down. Whether the expansion of those is a function of increased temptation to not curb one's natural tendencies, which, as I said, and it's worth repeating, are the result of the evolutionary process and might thus be said to be normal, or of our capacity to resist those temptations resulting from the example of a Holy man being admired is a moot point.

There are, of course, other aspects to the matter.



hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 02:18 pm
@spendius,
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And some think otherwise. The curbing of our natural tendencies, that is those created by evolutionary forces, is the principle upon which asceticism is founded.
I could get fully on board the statement that we should try to curb our evil and hurtful tendencies, though I am intrigued by Sade's apparent opinion that we should not. I am not convinced that believing that the different sexes have different abilities or that there are differences between the races rises to this level were we should suppress it, in fact I don't believe the statement that both sexes and all races are the same can be supported with any evidence at all. Such a belief is the willful suspension of reality on the favor of fantasy.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 03:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
It is not just the Divine Marquis hawk. Freud and especially Reich were of that view in theory. Many say Reich was in practice.

The idea that we shouldn't restrain our impulses, and let it all hang out, a liberal cause, because it was unhealthy to repress them was at the root of the so called permissive society. The advertising industry grew on the back of encouraging our lusts. And politicians catered for them. It was popular. It still is.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 04:44 pm
@spendius,
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The advertising industry grew on the back of encouraging our lusts
the entire economy is optimized for lust, for maximizing consumption. We have become odd beings, on the one hand we are lustful and proud of it (the majority of our lives spend bent on consumption), on the other we are becoming very repressive (puritan morality, highly policed communication, the drive to repress unwanted thoughts and to punished those who refuse to conform to group-think). I think what we are seeing is playing out of a mass mental illness that afflicts moderns. We have lost our way/lost ourselves and are thus split, and are not honest enough with ourselves about our situation to ever fix it, nor to avoid continuing to hurt ourselves unnecessarily.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 05:00 pm
@hawkeye10,
It's around 100 years ago that Veblen said that America was a vast psychiatric ward.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 05:19 pm
@spendius,
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It's around 100 years ago that Veblen said that America was a vast psychiatric ward.
It was about a month ago that I read a profile about a IT Entrepreneur...has has no friends, can not relate to women, sleeps in the office (does not even bother to have a home), works 18 hours a day everyday.

It was pointed out that he clearly meets the criteria for mental illness, but he is successful in business and is cheered for his ways. He is crazy, but in a good way...
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Ryann
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 09:00 pm
@aidan,
that was an overstatement...your right people are born with more abilities than animals and are more intelligent, so how do they end up in the same place when it comes to social standards. people understand it is beneficial to curb their racist tendencies yet they dont.

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