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will usa produce as many software engineers as needed

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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 11:01 am
ever since the dot com burst and then the wave of outsourcing and "Bangalore" of software and technology related jobs - the rate of enrollment in IT and tech related courses in American colleges have dropped drastically. people in usa now think that its pointless joining a tech based course - since the tech jobs wont stay here anyway.

this only means that usa will have fewer and fewer techies in future - meaning more immigrants from india and china will pour in and more jobs have t be outsourced to other countries - which of course means that enrollment in tech courses will drop further, since the chances of getting an IT based job will be perceived to be yet lower.

where do you see this end? will usa ever start producing as many tech grad as they need? can this trend of plummetting enrollment ever be reversed and if so how? should tech education be made free in usa to atract students?
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 11:12 am
Of course the US will create as many SW engineers as needed, but the specifics will change. People will always be drawn to the industry, and as some aspects of it are outsourced, they will find their niche in jobs that have to be here, or at the very least need good native speakers and writers.
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 11:18 am
Please reply with your honest takes on this burning topic. It is something that affects you and me and usa in general.

I think the problem mainly stems from the fact that to sustain a technology/knowledge based economy (the high tech sector is one of the greatest earners of the us economy) - the host country needs to be flush with techies and geeks and STEM grads. and that is not the case - usa generates more tech jobs than tech grads - so a percentage of the jobs need to be outsourced and a chunk of immigrants also need to be inducted. this trend can only be reversed if locals are incentivized to enroll in technology courses in colleges.
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 11:22 am
i agree. most of the outsourced as are lower nd. or high end jobs which can be done at 1/20th the price in a third world country. tech jobs which have a security angle can ocourse never be outsourced. also in some 3rd world countries they dont have good patent and IP (intellectual property) laws - so such jobs wont ever be sent out. the 3rd world countries have sensed this and are actively trying to improve IP and patent laws there so that even more tech jobs get outsourced to those countries. QUESTION IS WHEN AND HOW DOES THIS END ??
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 11:38 am
so brahmin, how's your golf game going?
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 11:39 am
my golf game ?? where and how did golf come into this ??
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 12:19 pm
Please everyone answer the question. i do not play golf.
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 02:17 pm
brahmin wrote:

Please everyone answer the question. i do not play golf.
hey it's ok brahmin, not everyone is a golfer. how's your table tennis holding up?
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 03:06 pm
why are you ruinigng a tech thread with irrelevant questions about golf and TT?
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 03:16 pm
america can and would produce all of the engineers needed, if the industry was willing to pay the going rate for work. foreigners are brought in because they will work for less, not because of a failure to train enough Americans.
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 04:28 pm
Where are you getting this nonsense from?

Put something on Monster.com asking for software engineers.
Your inbox will explode.
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 04:58 pm
from here (among others ) google "shortage of tech students" for more.


http://wistechnology.com/articles/3387/
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2007/apr/09/not-adding-up/
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/why/images/enrollment.pdf
http://download.101com.com/CAM/conf/2006/TPS7.pdf
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/news/demillo-number-of-it-graduates-is-shrinking/file
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/why/images/enrollment.pdf
http://www.allbusiness.com/education-training/education-systems-institutions/11736717-1.html




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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2009 08:47 pm
Read this. It's more recent than your 2006-2007 references.
Computer Science Programs Make a Comeback in Enrollment
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