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What is spirituality?

 
 
Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 06:38 am
It is somewhat discredited in the west, being something we can't quanitfy, and often being associated with beliefs that don't stand up to reason or scientific evidence.
What is it?
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Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 07:53 am
PQ,

As a one liner ....

Spirituality is a state of mind or being involving transcendence of the "self".

Tradititional reductionist science tends to claim that such a state is illusory, but
recent developments like Quantum Mechanics have raised sufficient ontological questions about the status of "observers" to encourage some of their number to support concepts like "holistic consciousness".



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Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 08:00 am
concerned with matters of spirit ?
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Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 05:49 pm
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recent developments like Quantum Mechanics have raised sufficient ontological questions about the status of "observers" to encourage some of their number to support concepts like "holistic consciousness".


Do you think that is a 'way forward' in that case? Are we waiting for more 'evidence.'
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Reply Sat 2 May, 2009 06:47 pm
Be nice and define all that.

What is Quantum Mechanics without capital letters?
What is ontological?
What is holistic?
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Reply Sun 3 May, 2009 12:15 am
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What is Quantum Mechanics without capital letters?
What is ontological?
What is holistic?


QM...an established model in subatomic physics where the act of observation affects the observed phenomena such that "objective reality" becomes problematic.

Ontology...philosophy of of "existence" or "being" or "reality".

Holistic...single unified totallity...as in the idea of "holistic consciousness" where all consciousness is part of the same entity or force which permeates all aspects of "reality". (David Bohm the physicist was an example of one such advocate)
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Reply Sun 3 May, 2009 01:06 am
PQ,

"Forward" implies we specify a preferred direction. What is happening is a limited number of "paradigm shifts" in attitudes to "knowledge", one of which has taken an ecological route which follows holistic principles. (see Capra "The Web of Life"). The ecology movement, together with Bohm's exhortations for us to engage in "critical dialogue" does give support for some aspects of "spirituality" but politics has tended to muddy the waters.
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