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Is american popular culture poisoning young british society?

 
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 09:34 am
australia has some great music and film if you can find it

music - "radio birdman", "weddings, parties, anything", "hunters and collectors"

film - breaker morant, my brilliant career, the getting of wisdom, galipoli
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 09:35 am
I think it is deplorable how america is holding a knife to everybody's neck to gobble down their despicableculture. really, have you no shame america?
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 09:37 am
djjd62 wrote:

australia has some great music and film if you can find it

music - "radio birdman", "weddings, parties, anything", "hunters and collectors"

film - breaker morant, my brilliant career, the getting of wisdom, galipoli


Of course it does. Don't forget the Saints, who recorded my all time favorite punk album. And obviously Crocodile Dundee was made in Hollywood.

It's not like I'm trying to make a legitimate point or anything like that. That's not what I do here.

I'm gonig to see what I can find out about these films you've listed.
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 09:43 am
galipoli is probably my fave of the list, it's the battle that was the basis for the song "and the band played waltzing matilda", it stars a young mel gibson, it might be his first movie actually, my brilliant carrer and the getting of wisdom are kind of period chick flicks but interesting
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 09:45 am
Wilso - you're gonna hate this - but I always forget you're not American. I don't know why, but I do- when I read this I thought, 'Isn't he American- and then I remembered you're Australian.

I think it's hard for people who don't live in America and who only access it in short bursts either on vacations or through the media to grasp exactly how diverse and rich American culture is.

And you can't encapsulate it. The Innuits in Alaska are part of American culture as much as slave owners in the deep south, and the cowboys out west, (although now, it's a shame that when anyone outside of America hears Alaska they'll think hockey moms and pitbulls with lipstick like Sarah Palin).
You have the legacy of the iron workers in Pittsburgh, and Pennsylvania Dutch and Amish within an hour of Philadelphia's Main Line society- and that's only in one STATE!
You have the descendents of Cabots and the Lowells of Boston within a few miles of Roxbury (a ghetto).
It's certainly not all good - but it's certainly not all bad.
Read some American literature. Read Steinbeck (if you haven't - maybe you have) but I'm saying this because I think he presents an amazing portrait of Americans and American culture in all its diversity.

It really kills me to think that the world thinks Gossip Girls represent America and Americans. I'm one American who's never even seen it. I haven't a clue what it's about, but I know it doesn't represent me.
Desperate Housewives (again I haven't seen it) represent one small little faction of American housewives, but again- they don't represent me.
I know - I was an American housewife and I hung out with women in Maine who taught me how to weave baskets and rag rugs while our kids played next to the fire we built with logs we hauled in after we broke the ice in the buckets to water the horses while we were forcing our seedlings for spring planting.
It's TRUE! And my mom was a totally different sort of housewife than I was.
And so was my sister.
My point is that you can't point to one person in America and say, 'That's typical of Americans.' I don't know what I'd consider a typical American to be.

But I think the more interesting question is why is the rest of the world is so interested in what are the basest and most shallow aspects of American culture. Why don't they demand and adopt the better and more interesting parts?
I think it says just as much or more about these other cultures who IMPORT this crap. If it's so bad and everyone's so against it, why go to the trouble of accessing it at all? Wouldn't it be better just to make your own cultural contributions?
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 09:48 am
Goddamnit, we need that money for our economy. Here, buy this television series--39 weekly episodes, that's good for a three year run! Damnnit, buy it, or you'll be sorry ! ! !
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 10:17 am
funny about the indigenous people of north america, that's more or less how i think of them, i think of the first nations people as north american, not american or canadian, and the Inuit, as just that, i don't see a division between the peoples who live in canada or america
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2009 10:26 am
I was just having a conversation about that with a woman who's from Quebec - French speaking- who's married to an Englishman and has lived here (England) since 1972.

And I told her that as an American, I always identified closely with Canadians, (as I lived most of my life in the northeast - I guess if I'd grown up in the southwest it'd have been different) and I guess I just assumed that they identified more closely with Americans, as they were physically geographically closer- than with England (though they were/are part of the commonwealth).
So I asked her how she felt- and of course it was different for her as she was French and from Quebec, but she said that when she was a young girl, there was much more of an emphasis on America and Canada being friendly neighbors and their similarities rather than differences than there is now.
I guess it has a lot to do with a generalized anti-Americanism that's more prevalent now.

I think in terms of the indigenous people being North American - yeah- I mean they were constantly crossing back and forth over what eventually became a three thousand mile long border.
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