Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

Further undermining the Two State Solution, the Zionists approved for themselves this week the expansion of Eli, a settlement in the middle of the West Bank. The article I cite says that the Israeli government approved plans to create a new Jewish settlement, but this settlement was established back in 1984. It's being expanded to accommodate settlers from a nearby outpost that is not authorized by the Zionist government.

The Obama administration criticized the move.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/world/middleeast/obama-israel-west-bank-settlements.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20161006

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

oralloy says:

Quote:
There is no requirement that I spend time proving the value of my posts (something that is self evident to begin with) to a dishonorable audience that wouldn't even be interested in the truth if I did prove it

How do you know?

How do I know that you guys are not even remotely interested in the truth?

The way you guys make untrue statements about me instead of addressing the subject of discussion makes it very obvious.

MontereyJack wrote:

You never have.

The sages envy me for my great wisdom.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Forrest Gump has more knowledge than oralloy.

Reported for name-calling. I'm not going to let you suck me into a name-calling war where we both get suspended.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

Further undermining the Two State Solution,

The negotiated version of a two-state solution has already been completely demolished.

The version of a two-state solution where Israel draws all the borders unilaterally and the Palestinians get screwed is well on its way to a resounding success.

InfraBlue wrote:

the Zionists approved for themselves this week the expansion of Eli, a settlement in the middle of the West Bank.

Interesting. This place is next to Shilo?

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

The sages envy me for my great wisdom.

And the onions. Non vegetables not so much.

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@izzythepush,

I'll give that a thumbs up for making me smile.

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@izzythepush,

Basil and Rosemary aren't so keen on our spicy little acquaintance, either.

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@oralloy,

really?!!! care to tell me about them? ..... you all almighty wiseman

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@bobsal u1553115,

None of the herbs have any time for him.

https://scdn.nflximg.net/images/3746/2153746.jpg

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You're right about Israel; for years the government has encouraged hostility toward itself, knowing they can because of their ties to the US.

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@Thomas33,

When our government blindly supports a repressive government like Israel, democracies all over the world suffers. Israel is NOT a democracy. They continue to build settlements on Palestinian lands; illegal ethically and by international law.

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@cicerone imposter,

Its bad enough that we support so many repressive governments but think of how many democratic governments we have brought down because they were socialist or detrimental to big business. And for the conservatives who are going to try to make me prove my statement google it.

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@Thomas33,

Thomas33 wrote:

You're right about Israel; for years the government has encouraged hostility toward itself, knowing they can because of their ties to the US.

Anti-Semitism is solely the fault of the anti-Semites. Israel is in no way responsible for such scum.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

When our government blindly supports a repressive government like Israel, democracies all over the world suffers.

Israel is not repressive and our support is not blind.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Israel is NOT a democracy.

Yes they are.

cicerone imposter wrote:

They continue to build settlements on Palestinian lands; illegal ethically and by international law.

The Palestinians had their chance to make peace. Now Israel gets to keep the land.

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@oralloy,

Sheesh. Are you a robot? It's like you're programmed to say the same thing over and over again. That or youre desperately trying to convince yourself of the validity of your inhumane views through repitition. The Palestinians should not be required to make peace with Israel on Zionist terms. Israel has never been committed to peace, only to its survival at any cost. If an unequal peace treaty can get Israel what it wants it's on board. If unwarranted violence can get it what it wants it's on board.

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@perennialloner,

perennialloner wrote:

It's like you're programmed to say the same thing over and over again.

That's what talking to Oralboy entails, he has a very limited vocabulary and constantly repeats himself. There's no debate, no reasoning, no sense of humour, nothing, ultimately it's a complete waste of time.

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@perennialloner,

perennialloner wrote:

Sheesh. Are you a robot? It's like you're programmed to say the same thing over and over again. That or youre desperately trying to convince yourself of the validity of your inhumane views through repitition.

Are you a liberal? Most liberals don't understand the concept of telling the truth, and when they see someone who always tells the truth, they don't understand why they don't hear a fresh set of lies every conversation.

perennialloner wrote:

The Palestinians should not be required to make peace with Israel on Zionist terms.

"On Zionist terms" is a nonsense phrase. The Palestinians were required to negotiate with Israel and make peace with them in exchange for Israel returning to 1967 borders.

perennialloner wrote:

Israel has never been committed to peace, only to its survival at any cost.

When you deny the fact of Israel's past peace offers, you legitimize the settlements. Thanks for the help.

perennialloner wrote:

If an unequal peace treaty can get Israel what it wants it's on board. If unwarranted violence can get it what it wants it's on board.

The Palestinians have handed Israel an unequal outcome on a silver platter. At some point a Palestinian state will be declared unilaterally. But absent peace negotiations, that Palestinian state is going to end up composed of Area A alone.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Oralboy

Your name-calling reflects only on you.

izzythepush wrote:

he has a very limited vocabulary and constantly repeats himself.

My vocabulary is fine. The truth just doesn't change from post to post.

izzythepush wrote:

There's no debate, no reasoning, no sense of humour, nothing, ultimately it's a complete waste of time.

Attempts to get me to disregard facts do always end in failure.

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@oralloy,

not agreeing with you does not mean not telling the truth....
you haven´t answered my last post, by the way.....

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So, the Obama administration gave a symbolic rap to the Zionists' knuckles for all of their settlement building and thumbing their noses at the peace process, and they're frothing at the mouth with indignation.

The Trump administration promises to incite violence and discord in Palestine with its embrace of the hardest line of the Zionists.

One good that will come out of these developments is the death of the risible Two State Solution. The Palestinians must acknowledge this fact and demand their rights in all of Palestine and struggle peaceably towards those ends.

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