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Stock Market/ Who Dumped? Who is Staying the Course?

 
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2008 01:45 pm
I believe that's true for most of us older folks. We had more personal experience with the various types of market action as opposed to the younger people who never knew a serious prolonged downturn.
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2008 01:48 pm
We never took out much, but had the dividends, which was a lovely "pension". On two occasions a company was bought out, and we collected nice pieces of change!
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Reply Tue 25 Nov, 2008 06:08 pm
A friend at the coffee shop was really discouraged about the performance of his retirement funds, so he asked what he should do. I recommended that he transfer some of his equities into government bonds, and get his financial adviser for her advise. He took the action last Monday when the market was up, and his mix is now 20% equities and 80% bonds. The timing couldn't have been better for him.
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 05:02 am
Timing is so important. My brother had shares of Citicorp. He got nervous, took a huge hit, and sold out at $3- The next day, the stock was double that!
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 10:57 am
Dealing with single stock issues is much more difficult in this environment; especially since the government is involving itself in shoring banks, finance companies and car companies that would otherwise have gone bankrupt.

Our government is now committed to over seven trillion in guarantees and cash into our economy.

Helloooo inflation.
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 11:10 am
Two years ago, at Thanksgiving dinner, my big shot BIL was bragging about his great stock market picks. He was all bluster about "getting the government out of the retirement business" and basically putting it back into the hands of individuals and the glorious free market. Yesterday his wife told me their portfolio is down by half and they are thinking of selling their Florida snowbird home to cut back on expenses. I wonder what he will be blustering about this year.
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 01:16 pm
GW, I remember when my best friend used to brag about how much he was worth on paper during the tech boom, but said nothing after the bust. I believe it's just human nature to brag when people have done well in the market, and fall silent when they've lost a bundle.

The best strategy are those that have been preached and practiced for the long term; diversify, don't try to time the market, buy low and sell high, and keep a ratio between bonds and equities depending on one's age. Simple, but many don't heed.

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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 01:24 pm
I don't mind someone tooting their investment kazoo, but my BIL was a big advocate of getting rid of Social Security because he felt the average Joe could do better on their own. He held himself up as a prime example, although he has an advanced degree in business and grew up in a fairly privileged household . I think his philosophy has been given an overhaul and he will gladly cash his SS checks in a few years .
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 01:38 pm
GW, Those who advocated for getting rid of social security doesn't understand our country and the crisis it would create if they got their wishes. Even with social security, the majority of seniors are on life-support - just to have shelter and pay for food. Many turn to dog food and don't take their prescribed drugs, because they don't have the money to survive in a economic environment that continues to stretch their dollars. Those so-called compassionate conservatives have no compassion; they only look at their own situation and think everybody will be "better off." Social security is a life-saver for many.

Another major issue is that most workers preparing for retirement have very little or no savings. Without social security, they'll all be homeless and/or starving.
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 04:07 pm
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Many turn to dog food


it seems to me that "dog food" is getting rather expensive these days !
when i had a dog as a kid , the dog was fed table scraps .
hbg
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 04:14 pm
Haven't kept track of the cost of dog food since we owned a dog in the early seventies. Just remember reading articles about seniors buying dog food to eat during the interim.
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 04:30 pm
to cheer up everyone and help dispell any and all gloom (from the times of london) :

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00440/brookes_440350a.jpg

may have to fire up the "afterburner" !
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Reply Wed 26 Nov, 2008 04:53 pm
Ten billion every month being "burned." For what?
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 09:53 am
Your link to Reuters is not working. However, as it concerns the violence in Mumbai and the Indian economy, it will be a short-lived event with very little to no effect.
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 02:14 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:

Haven't kept track of the cost of dog food since we owned a dog in the early seventies. Just remember reading articles about seniors buying dog food to eat during the interim.


Better to be eating dog food as opposed to eating dog...
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Reply Fri 28 Nov, 2008 03:23 pm
Some in southern China have been eating dog for centuries.
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