I am not in possession of any information wrt UFOs one way or another; but there is something you should keep in mind while reading those stories...
Most of the stories you read originate around 1947 - 1949. What was going on in America in those days was that people flying around in piston-engined aircraft were seeing jets for the first time. Granted some of our WW-II era piston-engined fighter planes could hit 400 or 430 mph as a top speed, they didn't CRUISE at that speed; they cruised at 250 or 300, and the first jets were flying around at 500 - 600.
First jets would have included our own F80, captured jet Messerschmidts, and German swept-wing designs which were in early stages before Germany lost the war and which our own skunk works would almost certainly have gone ahead with and which might could have hit 900 - 1200 mph.
In other words, handsfull of people in prop-driven planes would have been seeing jets go by at two to four times their own speed.
Quote:I am certain that the genuine article is out there...
They're out there all right, but you have to grasp the reality of the basic density of space to have any sort of an idea of the likelihood of any of them ever coming to visit. The basic density of space INSIDE a galaxy like ours is about like one dust mote every four or five miles; that is, if you scale our solar system to about a yard across at which point our sun would look like a dust mote, the next such dust mote would be four miles away.
Quote:I suppose anything even stars and distant galaxies could be put into that same mindset. We have only the observations of respected scientists telling us they exist. We have only basic photographs and theories. Nonetheless, I do not doubt their existence. Respected astronauts, airline pilots, former President Carter and the list goes on have seen these things.
Stars are completely different Nick. We already know Stars exist. We know a lot about them. They sit still and allow multiple different observers to observe them with a huge variety of scientific equipment. Your analogy is as far off base as I can imagine.
Quote:A friend of mine worked for the department of defense for many years. This past weekend he and I were discussing this very topic. He told me most UFO's can be explained away. But there is the genuine article out there and the government knows about it.
I would ask him how he knows this. Upon what evidence does he base his statement?
Quote:For my part,
I am certain that the genuine article is out there,
what with there being so many millions of stars
and millions of gallaxies. Whether or not thay
have opted to come HERE, is a distinct question.
I believe there's other life in the Universe as well, and I believe there's other intelligent life. But I have no evidence for it, and believing it doesn't add any credence (or value) to UFO's.
Quote:They're out there all right, but you have to grasp the reality of the basic density of space to have any sort of an idea of the likelihood of any of them ever coming to visit. The basic density of space INSIDE a galaxy like ours is about like one dust mote every four or five miles; that is, if you scale our solar system to about a yard across at which point our sun would look like a dust mote, the next such dust mote would be four miles away.
Sometimes you're actually correct. For some reason that worries me.
We are looking at the view of the cosmos with our current understanding of physics, which may be a shallow understanding. We have discovered e=mc2 only within the past 100 years. To a civilization thousands of years advanced beyond us treveling to another solar system could be like walking the street. I believe the truth will come out. Hopefully in my lifetime.
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We are looking at the view of the cosmos with our current understanding of physics, which may be a shallow understanding. We have discovered e=mc2 only within the past 100 years. To a civilization thousands of years advanced beyond us treveling to another solar system could be like walking the street. I believe the truth will come out. Hopefully in my lifetime.
I agree, hopefully within my lifetime. But I've been waiting a long time now, so fuzzy blobs on photo's and lame stories of UFO's just aren't cutting it. I guess that's why I get frustrated when people start to think of UFO reports as anything exciting, when in fact they tell us nothing. There's no meat on them bones.
