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Mon 25 Aug, 2008 09:05 pm
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Michelle's Speech:
"See..." "See..." "See..." "See..."
Did anyone coach her?
She's pretty good at public speaking despite all of the use of "See..."
Obviously her husband's handlers have insisted that she stress her love and pride of America.
In listening to her speech, I am impressed by her conservative values, and yet the policies that she and her husband advocate are not about people earning their way, they are about give aways.
Fact check - She didn't give up a career with a prestigious law firm to labor for the unfortunate. She made $215,000 a year as vice president of community and external affairs at the University of Chicago Hospitals.
Her youngest daughter is very cute and not entirely compliant with the convention script.
Is anyone going to believe that a scripted speech reveals more about her than her off the cuff comments?
It pumped up the believers but I doubt it did much to sway the skeptical.
...and you're one of the skeptics.
@Finn dAbuzz,
Even tho' it wasn't one of your choices, I thot I'd give you a ThU, Finn, as opposed to a ThD.
@cicerone imposter,
Of course, but the question is whether or not her speech convinced those who were far less cemented in their position than me, that she realy really loves America.
@JTT,
Huhh?
You really are a jackal aren't you?
@JTT,
Ooops - You gave me a thumbs up.
You're a weird one JTT so I'm not sure why you did , but - nevertheless - thanks.
I don't really care about thumbs up or thumbs down but I while I couldn't care less about the scorn of a thumbs down, I'll happily acknowledge the positivity of a thumbs up.
So thank you.
The nonsense of the background discussion has been whether or not Hillary is really supportive of Obama.
Of course she isn't.
She wants to be president far more than she wants Obama to be president, and so is it really unimaginable that she would want him to lose?
If he wins, Hillary's next opportunity will be in 2016 when she is 68 years old.
The Clintons are fabulous politicians. They aren't going to sit back and wait 8 years for their next chance in the spotlight.
Let's face it, these people are vying for ultimate personal power. They are not worrying about what is best for America because they think they are best for America.
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:Huhh?
You really are a jackal aren't you?
A tad too quick to read in fault, aren't we, Finn?
But thanks for the clarification.
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:Let's face it, these people are vying for ultimate personal power. They are not worrying about what is best for America because they think they are best for America.
We keep hearing variations on this theme and I suppose that there is some measure of truth in it but why, Finn, would you even be discussing the Clintons when there are others who never gave a rat's ass about what was good for America.
Why no discussion of them?
"There's no problem with Bill Clinton."
He is the last Democratic President since FDR, to win two terms, and yet he isn't going to get to speak in prime time?
@JTT,
Well, there are numerous parties to discuss but a well crafted post is focused. I'm focusing on the Clintons.
If you would like to respond with greater specificity, please do so.
Keep in mind though that the general topic of this thread is the Democratic Convention. As such, Clintonian actions are far more relevant than any other than perhaps Obama and Biden themselves.
Hillary:
Very big cheers.
Proud Senator of NY? How did my fellow New Yorkers ever buy she was a New Yorker? Then again, they bought Bobby Kennedy was too.
Michelle ain't smiling.
Hillary is, at best, a journeyman orator.
"No way, no how, no McCain." Pretty lame.
"You made me laugh, and yes you even made me cry." <Ralppphhh!!!>
"And she greeted me with her bald head..." Brilliant.
Together we made history...and in 2012 we will make more profound history!"
"Money borrowed from the Chinese to pay the Saudis." What? Her husband fostered that cozy relation, and was paid for it.
Michelle still ain't smiling.
"Restore fiscal sanity to Washington!" By taxing the hell out of the evil rich.
Bill is biting his lower lip!
Michelle still ain't smiling.
Not so much about the virtues of Obama.
3 Pro-Obama comments.
"We did it before with with President Clinton......"
Still Michelle ain't smiling.
5 Pro-Obama comments.
NOW Michelle smiles (but shows no teeth).
Biden smiles and shows teeth.
Man, she's juiced!
"Well, John McCain..." but I totally respect him as a colleague.
Bush = McCain
Great to spotlight the stars in the crowd - e.g, Ashley Judd
Women should never have been given the right to vote. We wouldn't have all this silly feminized nonsense to deal with.
"We're Americans, we're not big on quitting!" But we should quit in Iraq!
Maybe 6 Pro-Obama comments so far.
"God bless you!" even though I think a belief in God is the mark of a Rube.,
Hillary still wants to be president and did as much as she had to and as little as you could manage for Obama.
Pumpkin pants suit forever!
A very very lame endorsement of Obama.
A masterfully balanced speech - Bill must have wrote it.
It's always been about the Clintons, so was this.
Who was Gov Patterson looking at?
As a father, Biden is superlative.
Personally, a great guy, and yet a liberal.
If we we were voting for good guys alone, I would be happy to vote for Joe Biden.
I certainly prefer him, by far, to Obama.
And yet, as good a guy as he is, and as black a person Obama may be, their positions are to liberal for me.
Finally, a Democrat of power acknowledges the Clintons.
But then Joe is a politician, isn't he?
"The Vice President is on the phone."
Agregious words.
Silly assed partisanship.
Biden: McCain is a great guy, but I can't agree with his position on Amtrac!
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