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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 04:19 pm
Re: rosborne979 (Post 3373677)
rosborne979 wrote:
I've had this happen before. It's pretty freaky. But you're not actually "awake and stuck in a sleeping body", you're really still asleep and dreaming that you are awake. That's why you will suddenly snap out of it if you get scared enough, the fear will break the dream and you will wake up for real; paralysis gone.


No, definitely awake, because when control returns I get straight up without any change in state of consciousness. All this talk of pain and demons is 'alien' to my experience of this phenomenon. Certainly I felt fear the first time and my brain search for a reason made me think I was being held down - but I came to realise it was some sort of neurological hangover from sleep, so I'd experiment whether sheer force of will could move a finger. I couldn't. Control would come back to all parts of my body at the same time with no obvious trigger, unless...

Maybe Ros is right. Maybe it's a drawn out singularity where sleep and consciousness meet.
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 04:54 am
Re: Nick Ashley (Post 3373506)
I get that about once every couple of years, except that I don't have the trouble breathing. Usually, if I try long enough, I can wake up and move, although sometimes it's terribly difficult.
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2008 01:55 pm
Sleep paralysis

Night terrors

Possession by Incubus/Succubus

Panic attack

Whatever you call it, it is terrifying, and yes, it seems to go on much longer than it actually does.

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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2008 11:06 pm
Re: hingehead (Post 3374439)
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Maybe Ros is right. Maybe it's a drawn out singularity where sleep and consciousness meet.

I've noticed that when I wake up from these things that my eyes were closed during the event. And yet when I remember the event, I remember it as though my eye were open.

This is how I deduce that I was actually dreaming that I was awake.
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2008 12:23 pm
Re: OGIONIK (Post 3373996)
Then that wasn't sleep paralysis..you can't speak during sleep paralysis..i have sleep paralysis and trust me it doesn't involve you being able to speak..maybe you got pannic attacks..they have rather similar symptoms..

Sleep paralysis, is also known as Old Hag syndrome and is a phenomenon that is known, to some extent, by all cultures throughout the world.
Sleep paralysis is a condition in which someone about to fall asleep, or just upon waking from sleep, realizes that they are unable to move or speak, but can still breathe and move their eyes. I like to call this the "twilight" stage. Your conscious mind has begun to drift into sleep but is not yet there, therefore you still retain a small amount of your waking conscious. It is a very transitory stage indeed, and one that seems to leave you open to certain experiences you would not otherwise be receptive to when fully conscious or fully asleep. It is also accepted by most researchers that although this can happen in any sleeping position, it most commonly occurs in the supine position.
Once the person realizes that they are unable to move, they usually, but not always leave this "twilight" stage and become fully awake, but remain paralyzed. At this point the experience can go either way. The person may only experience a temporary paralysis, and after several seconds or up to a minute or so would then regain their movement and the event would be over.
But the other scenario is much more frightening. Upon realizing one is paralyzed, a whole gamut of hallucinations may occur. Many people report hearing, seeing, and/or sensing a person or people in the room with them while they are paralyzed. There is also the common experience of a usually sensed, malevolent presence (or SPM). Note that not all sensed presences are felt as being malevolent, but very frequently they are. These SPM's usually seem to be just out of view of the person experiencing the SP, who from here on I will refer to as the "subject". Sometimes it is reported that the subject feels crushed, smothered, or pushed into the bed. There are auditory hallucinations as well. A voice may be heard, as well as footsteps.
During SP the subject may try to cry out or "fight" the presence they believe is responsible for causing them to be paralyzed. This however does not help, in fact it may cause said person to fall into a deeper form of SP.
The hallucinations are called hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations. They are given these names because they occur at the onset of sleep, and the period just before waking. It is very hard to believe that it is just a hallucination, but after all, that's what a hallucination proper is. This however does not make the experience any less terrifying. However this is only a scientific theory not a fact. In some cases people report seeing, feeling and hearing the "said presence". This is why some researchers believe that people with the more rare HSP are gifted.
Finally, one last subject that needs to be looked at here is how does one avoid HSP? There unfortunately is no way to prevent HSP. All advice I can offer is to avoid sleeping in the supine position. However HSP can occur in any sleeping position but most commonly occurs while lying on your back.
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2008 12:24 pm
Re: OGIONIK (Post 3373996)
Then that wasn't sleep paralysis..you can't speak during sleep paralysis..i have sleep paralysis and trust me it doesn't involve you being able to speak..maybe you got pannic attacks..they have rather similar symptoms..

Sleep paralysis, is also known as Old Hag syndrome and is a phenomenon that is known, to some extent, by all cultures throughout the world.
Sleep paralysis is a condition in which someone about to fall asleep, or just upon waking from sleep, realizes that they are unable to move or speak, but can still breathe and move their eyes. I like to call this the "twilight" stage. Your conscious mind has begun to drift into sleep but is not yet there, therefore you still retain a small amount of your waking conscious. It is a very transitory stage indeed, and one that seems to leave you open to certain experiences you would not otherwise be receptive to when fully conscious or fully asleep. It is also accepted by most researchers that although this can happen in any sleeping position, it most commonly occurs in the supine position.
Once the person realizes that they are unable to move, they usually, but not always leave this "twilight" stage and become fully awake, but remain paralyzed. At this point the experience can go either way. The person may only experience a temporary paralysis, and after several seconds or up to a minute or so would then regain their movement and the event would be over.
But the other scenario is much more frightening. Upon realizing one is paralyzed, a whole gamut of hallucinations may occur. Many people report hearing, seeing, and/or sensing a person or people in the room with them while they are paralyzed. There is also the common experience of a usually sensed, malevolent presence (or SPM). Note that not all sensed presences are felt as being malevolent, but very frequently they are. These SPM's usually seem to be just out of view of the person experiencing the SP, who from here on I will refer to as the "subject". Sometimes it is reported that the subject feels crushed, smothered, or pushed into the bed. There are auditory hallucinations as well. A voice may be heard, as well as footsteps.
During SP the subject may try to cry out or "fight" the presence they believe is responsible for causing them to be paralyzed. This however does not help, in fact it may cause said person to fall into a deeper form of SP.
The hallucinations are called hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations. They are given these names because they occur at the onset of sleep, and the period just before waking. It is very hard to believe that it is just a hallucination, but after all, that's what a hallucination proper is. This however does not make the experience any less terrifying. However this is only a scientific theory not a fact. In some cases people report seeing, feeling and hearing the "said presence". This is why some researchers believe that people with the more rare HSP are gifted.
Finally, one last subject that needs to be looked at here is how does one avoid HSP? There unfortunately is no way to prevent HSP. All advice I can offer is to avoid sleeping in the supine position. However HSP can occur in any sleeping position but most commonly occurs while lying on your back.
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2008 12:46 pm
Re: PuNkGaL19 (Post 3427501)
Thanks for the info punkgal!

Its interesting to hear that it's much more common then I originally thought. So far it hasn't happened to me again since I first posted, which was almost a month and a half ago.

Now that our dog sleeps in our bed, I'm waiting for the day I wake up with a Shih Tzu licking my face, and am unable to push her away Smile
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 12:50 pm
How do you not panic? When it happens to me I cant breath and I'm aware I cant breath. By the time I wake up I'm positive I'm done for. And when I do finally wake up I find I actually haven't been breathing and I'm left gasping for air.
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