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Yes, it is wrong to view child pornography.

 
 
View Profile DrewDad
 
Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 05:25 pm
It doesn't matter where you get it.

It doesn't matter if you pay for it.

It doesn't matter if anyone knows about it.

It is created through abusing children. It is wrong to enjoy looking at images of children being abused. Period.





Can we all move on, now?
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 05:37 pm
Hopefully, but you do realize that only the majority of readers will understand what you said. The author of the other thread will dispute your concise and accurate statements.
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 05:59 pm
I'm quite sure a new member, coming here by way of a google search, would be wondering why this DadPad person felt a need to state something so obvious.
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 06:32 pm
roger wrote:
I'm quite sure a new member, coming here by way of a google search, would be wondering why this DadPad person felt a need to state something so obvious.


You have your dads mixed up, you dirty rat.


Next time I feel impelled to post on either desolate wasteland filled with quicksand of a thread I will try to come here instead.
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 06:38 pm
There have been 65 active threads in the last three hours alone, if you are not interested in the subject matter of a thread kindly move along....the solution to your perceived problem ain't complicated folks.
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 06:47 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
There have been 65 active threads in the last three hours alone, if you are not interested in the subject matter of a thread kindly move along....the solution to your perceived problem ain't complicated folks.


What??? Now you attempt to stifle free speech? The problem, by the way, is yours not this thread.
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 06:57 pm
Intrepid wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
There have been 65 active threads in the last three hours alone, if you are not interested in the subject matter of a thread kindly move along....the solution to your perceived problem ain't complicated folks.


What??? Now you attempt to stifle free speech? The problem, by the way, is yours not this thread.


the problem is that you all are bitching about a problem you can solve yourselves. If you are not interesting in a conversation then go to one of the hundreds of other active conversations. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you read, or post.
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 07:12 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
There have been 65 active threads in the last three hours alone, if you are not interested in the subject matter of a thread kindly move along....the solution to your perceived problem ain't complicated folks.


What??? Now you attempt to stifle free speech? The problem, by the way, is yours not this thread.


the problem is that you all are bitching about a problem you can solve yourselves. If you are not interesting in a conversation then go to one of the hundreds of other active conversations. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you read, or post.


No....but it's kind of natural to secrete something when a chunk of grit lodges in your sensitive regions.


:wink:
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 07:13 pm
I also get my "Blues" mixed up, Dlowan.
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 07:18 pm
roger wrote:
I also get my "Blues" mixed up, Dlowan.



I don't get it. Crying or Very sad
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 09:16 am
Intrepid wrote:
Hopefully, but you do realize that only the majority of readers will understand what you said. The author of the other thread will dispute your concise and accurate statements.


You mean his unsubstantiated assertions?
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 09:24 am
It doesn't matter where you get it.

It doesn't matter if you pay for it.

It doesn't matter if anyone knows about it.

It is created through abusing children. It is wrong to enjoy looking at images of children being abused. Period.

People like agrote cannot continue getting their jollies if they accept the truth. That's not what it's about with him. No way it's going to stop, because he has people suckered into participating with him, giving in to what he wants..
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 11:12 am
It is wrong to have anything to do with an industry that exploits children. I am, for the same reason, also against child labor.

Forget about the clinical implications of fetishes; I suspect we all have some.
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 11:17 am
agrote wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
Hopefully, but you do realize that only the majority of readers will understand what you said. The author of the other thread will dispute your concise and accurate statements.


You mean his unsubstantiated assertions?


Why do you speak of yourself in the third person?
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 12:50 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
People like agrote cannot continue getting their jollies if they accept the truth. That's not what it's about with him. No way it's going to stop, because he has people suckered into participating with him, giving in to what he wants..

You're right, you're right. I know you're right.
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 01:06 pm
it will stop , for us at least (seeing that topic) if we all just leave it alone.

If people who like kiddie porn could be changed with mere words and opinions, there wouldn't BE any of them around


(edited. I said THIS topic, when I meant the other one. Im only firing on one cylinder today..)
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 01:20 pm
shewolfnm wrote:
it will stop , for us at least (seeing that topic) if we all just leave it alone.

If people who like kiddie porn could be changed with mere words and opinions, there wouldn't BE any of them around


(edited. I said THIS topic, when I meant the other one. Im only firing on one cylinder today..)


and if we could criminally charge for having dreams/thoughts/fantasies of having sex with a child we could remove many more. Same goes for rape...it is actions that make a person guilty of a crime, not thoughts or beliefs. So many are ignorant that this is a cornerstone principle of free society, are willing to throw it away. Do so and free society crumbles.
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2008 10:11 am
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This consequence needs to be weighed up against the (admittedly small) positive consequences for the viewer of the porn. I'm sure I won't persuade anyone else to acknowledge the benefit that the viewer receives by watching the porn. But as a consequentialist, I must take this into account.

Dear God.




Abusing children is immoral.

Creating child pornography abuses children.

Therefore, creating child pornography is immoral.

It is immoral to profit from an immoral act. It does not matter if the original immoral act was your action or someone else's.

Therefore, enjoying child pornography is an immoral act.
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2008 11:07 am
DrewDad wrote:
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This consequence needs to be weighed up against the (admittedly small) positive consequences for the viewer of the porn. I'm sure I won't persuade anyone else to acknowledge the benefit that the viewer receives by watching the porn. But as a consequentialist, I must take this into account.

Dear God.




Abusing children is immoral.

Creating child pornography abuses children.

Therefore, creating child pornography is immoral.

It is immoral to profit from an immoral act. It does not matter if the original immoral act was your action or someone else's.

Therefore, enjoying child pornography is an immoral act.


Why is it wrong to profit from an immoral act committed by somebody else? Artists do it. Journalists and news reporters do it. Even professional charity workers do it.
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Reply Tue 8 Jul, 2008 11:11 am
I didn't say people don't do it; I said it's immoral.

I'm sure there are entire classes in journalism school dedicated to the ethics of covering war, crime, and the like.

Viewing pornography, however, is not journalism.
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