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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:24 pm
I have not seen any polls on this, but I imagine that women in the USA are very concerned about the repeal of Roe. Moreover, I don't think many would tolerate this. This could turn over a lot of votes to the Dems.
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 10:27 pm
Advocate wrote:
I have not seen any polls on this, but I imagine that women in the USA are very concerned about the repeal of Roe. Moreover, I don't think many would tolerate this. This could turn over a lot of votes to the Dems.


Who wants to repeal Roe v Wade?
And if someone does, so what?

Al it would mean is that it would go back to the states and the voters of each state would have to decide if abortion was going to be legal in that state.

The voters would also be the ones deciding what limits to place on it.
As far as I see it, its a 10th amendment issue and the federal govt had no business getting involved.
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 10:52 pm
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2008 11:25 pm
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 01:52 am
It has been extrapolated to include such protections MM. Don't play coy.

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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 05:04 am
Diest TKO wrote:
It has been extrapolated to include such protections MM. Don't play coy.

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What do you mean by "it has been extrapolated?"
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 06:43 am
Quote:
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


The right to privacy is not denied simply because it isn't mentioned.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 06:53 am
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.


Check the bill of rights.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 07:50 am
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.


Check the bill of rights.

OK,
Here is the Constitution...

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Please show us all where abortion or anything similiar is mentioned.
And if its a privacy issue, then ANYTHING I do in my home is protected by that right, correct?
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 08:16 am
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.


Check the bill of rights.

OK,
Here is the Constitution...

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Please show us all where abortion or anything similiar is mentioned.
And if its a privacy issue, then ANYTHING I do in my home is protected by that right, correct?


You always ask questions, and have little original to say. Check the Roe decision and you will find link between privacy and the constitution.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 08:28 am
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.


Check the bill of rights.

OK,
Here is the Constitution...

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Please show us all where abortion or anything similiar is mentioned.
And if its a privacy issue, then ANYTHING I do in my home is protected by that right, correct?


You always ask questions, and have little original to say. Check the Roe decision and you will find link between privacy and the constitution.


So if there is that link, then are you willing to say that ANYTHING I do inside my home is protected by the supposed right to privacy?
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 08:42 am
parados wrote:
Quote:
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


The right to privacy is not denied simply because it isn't mentioned.

Nor is the right to have the government depost 10 million dollars into my bank account, but most would agree that the Consitution does not, in fact, grant me this.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 08:44 am
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.


Check the bill of rights.

OK,
Here is the Constitution...

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Please show us all where abortion or anything similiar is mentioned.
And if its a privacy issue, then ANYTHING I do in my home is protected by that right, correct?


You always ask questions, and have little original to say. Check the Roe decision and you will find link between privacy and the constitution.

There is no such link. If you disagree, show us where it is. If you're right, you should have no problem with doing that.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 09:41 am
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.


Check the bill of rights.

OK,
Here is the Constitution...

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Please show us all where abortion or anything similiar is mentioned.
And if its a privacy issue, then ANYTHING I do in my home is protected by that right, correct?


You always ask questions, and have little original to say. Check the Roe decision and you will find link between privacy and the constitution.


So if there is that link, then are you willing to say that ANYTHING I do inside my home is protected by the supposed right to privacy?


Oh, another question. Well, yes, provided it doesn't injure others.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 09:42 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
parados wrote:
Quote:
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


The right to privacy is not denied simply because it isn't mentioned.

Nor is the right to have the government depost 10 million dollars into my bank account, but most would agree that the Consitution does not, in fact, grant me this.

You might want to look up the word "retained" Brandon. You can't retain something if you didn't already have it prior to the constitution. All people had the right to privacy before the constitution and retained that right. Government didn't intrude into their lives and make medical decisions for them.

People did NOT have $10 million prior to the constitution.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 10:01 am
Quote:
Government didn't intrude into their lives and make medical decisions for them.


Govt DID intrude into other peoples lives prior to the American revolution.
That was part of the reason for the war.

And how is overturning Roe v Wade an intrusion?
Are you so afraid of what the voters think that you wont allow them to decide what they want to be legal or not or what laws they want in their own state?

What does that say about your opinion of the voters?
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 10:03 am
mysteryman wrote:
Quote:
Government didn't intrude into their lives and make medical decisions for them.


Govt DID intrude into other peoples lives prior to the American revolution.
That was part of the reason for the war.

And how is overturning Roe v Wade an intrusion?
Are you so afraid of what the voters think that you wont allow them to decide what they want to be legal or not or what laws they want in their own state?

What does that say about your opinion of the voters?



How would you feel should the state decide to confiscate your weapons? Would that be cool?
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 10:09 am
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Quote:
Government didn't intrude into their lives and make medical decisions for them.


Govt DID intrude into other peoples lives prior to the American revolution.
That was part of the reason for the war.

And how is overturning Roe v Wade an intrusion?
Are you so afraid of what the voters think that you wont allow them to decide what they want to be legal or not or what laws they want in their own state?

What does that say about your opinion of the voters?



How would you feel should the state decide to confiscate your weapons? Would that be cool?


It cant be done without changing the Constitution, but to answer your hypothetical question...If a state decided to do that, I would simply move to a state that allows me to keep them.

Abortion laws should be the same way.
If a state passes abortion laws you dont like...MOVE.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 10:14 am
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Quote:
Government didn't intrude into their lives and make medical decisions for them.


Govt DID intrude into other peoples lives prior to the American revolution.
That was part of the reason for the war.

And how is overturning Roe v Wade an intrusion?
Are you so afraid of what the voters think that you wont allow them to decide what they want to be legal or not or what laws they want in their own state?

What does that say about your opinion of the voters?


The constitution overrides state law.


How would you feel should the state decide to confiscate your weapons? Would that be cool?


It cant be done without changing the Constitution, but to answer your hypothetical question...If a state decided to do that, I would simply move to a state that allows me to keep them.

Abortion laws should be the same way.
If a state passes abortion laws you dont like...MOVE.
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Reply Fri 25 Jul, 2008 10:21 am
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The constitution provides a woman privacy relative to her pregnancy termination.


Where?
Provide the appropriate article and clause that says that.


Check the bill of rights.

OK,
Here is the Constitution...

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2

Please show us all where abortion or anything similiar is mentioned.
And if its a privacy issue, then ANYTHING I do in my home is protected by that right, correct?


You always ask questions, and have little original to say. Check the Roe decision and you will find link between privacy and the constitution.


So if there is that link, then are you willing to say that ANYTHING I do inside my home is protected by the supposed right to privacy?


Oh, another question. Well, yes, provided it doesn't injure others.


So if I want to look at child porn on my computer, it should be allowed?
After all, I'm not injuring anyone by doing so.
If I want to make meth in my garage, it should be allowed, provided I'm not injuring anyone and its for my own use?
Would you go along with that also?
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