Homosexuality ? Where do you stand...

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DavidIg wrote:

Homo's must be punished or destroyed.

Do your feelings include lesbians, David ?

David

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

DavidIg wrote:
Homo's must be punished or destroyed.

Do your feelings include lesbians, David ?

David

Not if I rate them as 8/10 or higher.

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DavidIg wrote:

dlowan wrote:
DavidIg wrote:
dlowan wrote:
DavidIg wrote:
Homo's must be punished or destroyed.

Projecting, are we?

Or just a troll?

I'm usually written off as a troll.....but to be honest, I just thought I'd start off with a "bang" since the subject involves sex.

Just an idiot, then.

One's sexuality is defined by who they want to/or have sex with champ.

I take it you're a confused and angry gay?

Nope.

A happy, but nevertheless not braindead and bigoted, straight.

You?

In denial?

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dlowan wrote:

Nope.
A happy, but nevertheless not braindead and bigoted, straight.
You?
In denial?

WOW, you've certainly got a hard-on for the gays though.....and sorry, you don't strike me as that bright,..... but by means be a good little boy and follow the media's direction.

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dlowan.

You should make a request that this topic's title be changed to.."homosexuality, you're gonna love it whether it disgusts you or not"

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DavidIg wrote:

dlowan wrote:

Nope.
A happy, but nevertheless not braindead and bigoted, straight.
You?
In denial?

WOW, you've certainly got a hard-on for the gays though.....
and sorry, you don't strike me as that bright,.....
but by means be a good little boy and follow the media's direction.

David,

I 'm under the impression
that the individual to whom u have addressed yourself is not a boy;
( not that its any of my business ).

Let me be corrected, if I am in error on that point.

David

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Q: Homosexuality, where do you stand?

A: Where all the stools are taken?

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It seems like homosexuality is being shoved down our throats{what a horrible thought}....I want to know why, and also want to know why I'm not allowed to have a negative opinion on the matter?

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DavidIg wrote:

It seems like homosexuality is being shoved down our throats{what a horrible thought}....
I want to know why, and also want to know why I'm not allowed to have a negative opinion on the matter?

Well, first n foremost, I wanna stand up for anyone 's right
to have whatever opinion he chooses to HAVE.

Next, I gotta say that sometimes ( like the parade on " Gay Pride Day " is it ? )
I must agree with what u said about it being shoved on us.

Lastly, in candor:
if some people are emotionally attracted
sexually attracted by something in particular ( in this case homosexuality )
then thay may be emotionally locked into that and can t help it.

Will u agree that it is not morally right to torment a segment of the populace,
and even worse to do it on a life-long basis ?

Taking it a step further,
will u agree that we shud allow people to have
things that thay like, concerning which we do not agree with them,
if that does not interfere with the rest of us ?

For MY part,
I have a lot of strong opinions,
but I don 't claim to have any right to make anyone else agree
with me, against his will.

David

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Will u agree that it is not morally right to torment a segment of the populace,
and even worse to do it on a life-long basis ?

I think it's silly seeing men act like women, but as long as they leave me alone then it's all good, however, I reject the idea that I have a problem for not accepting them, ie, finding them weird.
To my way of thinking, there are only men's and woman's rights, but not gay rights.

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DavidIg wrote:

It seems like homosexuality is being shoved down our throats{what a horrible thought}....I want to know why, and also want to know why I'm not allowed to have a negative opinion on the matter?

DavidIg wrote:

It seems like homosexuality is being shoved down our throats{what a horrible thought}....I want to know why, and also want to know why I'm not allowed to have a negative opinion on the matter?

You can have whatever opinion you wish....however when you express such intelligent and reasoned opinions as "all homos should be punished or destroyed" you may expect to have your opinion ridiculed and condemned by anybody except another pathetic bigot such as yourself.

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Societies have the right to label homosexuality as sexual deviance and to discourage the practice, but I would first want a convincing argument for why we should do so. Homosexuals do not have a right to marriage, or anything similar to marriage, and I can't see me ever being willing to support such a concept.

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dlowan wrote:

You can have whatever opinion you wish....however when you express such intelligent and reasoned opinions as "all homos should be punished or destroyed" you may expect to have your opinion ridiculed and condemned by anybody except another pathetic bigot such as yourself.

You're such a gay Rolling Eyes

...I'm embarrassed that you're Australian

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DavidIg wrote:

dlowan wrote:

You can have whatever opinion you wish....however when you express such intelligent and reasoned opinions as "all homos should be punished or destroyed" you may expect to have your opinion ridiculed and condemned by anybody except another pathetic bigot such as yourself.

You're such a gay ...I'm embarrassed that you're Australian

"Gay" is only an insult for bigots like you.

Scamper off and learn and grow, dearie. You'll feel MUCH better.

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hawkeye10 wrote:

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Societies have the right

Tho I see that INDIVIDUALS within societies have rights,
I dispute the concept that a society has any rights.

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to label homosexuality as sexual deviance and to discourage the practice,
but I would first want a convincing argument for why we should do so.
Homosexuals do not have a right to marriage, or anything similar to marriage,
and I can't see me ever being willing to support such a concept.

One thing, tho:
will u agree that 2 homosexuals can join together in a CONTRACT ?
Marriage is a contract.

I think everyone has an equal right to contract, regardless of sexuality
( if he can find someone who is willing to contract with him ).

David

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The state recognizes marriage as a contract between the individuals yes, but it also gives the members of that contract rights that no other contracted individuals enjoy. I am thinking along the lines of pensions, access to special courts (family court), general legal protections and so forth. The state is under no obligation to pass along this special status to homosexuals who enter into contracts similar to marriage, nor do I think that the state should.

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Tho I see that INDIVIDUALS within societies have rights,
I dispute the concept that a society has any rights.

To be more precise, the majority has the right......

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

I dispute the concept that a society has any rights.

Go ahead, we'll see how far you get:

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Societal rights or civil rights are bestowed to its citizenry by society and are a set of obligations that are purported as a social contract. Societal rights are a privilege of membership and the benefits are limited to its members though may be extended to temporary guests. Access to societal rights is dependent on government grants and on the citizen fulfilling their obligations e.g. complying with laws and paying taxes.

The right can therefore be a faculty of doing something, of omitting or refusing to do something or of claiming something. Some interpretations express a typical form of right in the faculty of using something, and this is more often related to the right of ownership of property. The faculty (in all the above mentioned senses) can be originated by a (generical or specific) law, or by a private contract (which is sometimes exactly defined as a specific law between or among volunteer parties).

Other interpretations consider the right as a sort of freedom of something or as the object of justice. One of the definitions of justice is in fact the obligation that the legal system has toward the individual or toward the collectivity to grant respect or execution to his/her/its right, ordinarily with no need of explicit claim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right

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Chumly wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
I dispute the concept that a society has any rights.
Go ahead, we'll see how far you get:
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Societal rights or civil rights are bestowed to its citizenry by society
and are a set of obligations that are purported as a social contract.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right

I reject this concept.

I question the authority
of whoever wrote that for the Wikipedia.

The OPPOSITE is true.
Individuals, by choosing to associate with one another create a society,
and by FURTHER choosing to condescend to create a government,
bring that thing into being, as their child, endowed with whatever gifts
thay have opted to grant it, and with nothing else.
The individuals who have created government, are its parents,
and government is its child.

The Wikipedia has it turned around BACKWARD.
( This is comparable to some owners of realty deciding to hire a property management firm,
to take care of their property, on a day-to-day basis,
according to a contract of employment. )

DAVID

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DavidIg wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Will u agree that it is not morally right to torment a segment of the populace,
and even worse to do it on a life-long basis ?

I think it's silly seeing men act like women, but as long as they leave me alone then it's all good, however, I reject the idea that I have a problem for not accepting them, ie, finding them weird.
To my way of thinking, there are only men's and woman's rights, but not gay rights.

A gay man is still a man and a lesbian woman is still a woman.

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I try to stand as far away as possible from Zippo, Dys, Set, Gargamel, DrewDad, and all the other gay boyz of A2K.

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