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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2009 02:10 pm
OGIONIK wrote:
rag, i thought that story was going downhill, ...

They usually do, don't they?
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2009 03:25 pm
So do stories about lawyers, but that has little to do with lawyers and more to do with how stories tend to be negative.
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Reply Fri 17 Jul, 2009 03:25 pm
on this thread, yes.
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 01:31 am
Stop the madness!!!!

Abort black pit-bulls today!!!
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 09:41 am
I have done some research and found more useful Fact vs. Fiction info on Pit Bulls and debunking Pit Bull myths:

Locking Jaw

"Q: A friend of mine told me that Pit
[Pit] Bulls have a special enzyme that allow
them to lock their jaws. Is this true?

A: This is a very common myth. Pit Bulls are members
of the canine species and have the same jaw structure
as any other dog. If they had a special enzyme or other
mechanism allowing them to lock their jaws, we would
have to reclassify them as a different species.
However, Pit Bulls do seem to have an above average
amount of determination for obtaining and retaining
objects they are interested in. In fact, they were
selectively bred to never give up. Their focus may be
chasing squirrels or fetching rocks or sticks, but
whatever they do, it's done with a great deal of
enthusiasm. If they happen to grab on to something they
don't want to release, it can be quite difficult to extract it
from them."

Why Spay or Neuter topic
"It is estimated that 200 pit bulls are killed
EVERYDAY in Los Angeles, CA shelters alone
because there are not enough homes for them.
Many people have no idea how desperate the situation
is for millions of homeless companion animals,
especially Pit Bulls. These dogs have a lot more going
against them than any other breed. They are: regularly
maligned by the media; feared and misunderstood by
the public; too often owned by abusive or irresponsible
individuals; innocent victims of kill policies in shelters;
the target of municipal bans and breed specific
restrictions, etc.
It is estimated that 20 million unwanted and
homeless dogs and cats will be destroyed in the
U.S. this year. This is 1.6 million dogs and cats
KILLED per month every month of the year.
Anyone who cares about these dogs should try to save
a homeless Pit Bull before they consider adding more
dogs to a completely saturated market. This is a plea
for those of you who are thinking about breeding Pit
Bulls--please think again!
Remember that many animal shelters have a kill policy
for Pit Bulls. These dogs and puppies are destroyed
because they are Pit Bulls. The shelters that give Pit
bulls a chance are completely overloaded with these
dogs and must often euthanize them because they are
not able to find them good homes. The *lucky* ones
spend months and sometimes years rotting behind bars
lying on a cold cement floor. Before you breed, we urge
you to spend some time volunteering at your local
shelter so you can witness pet homelessness first hand."

http://www.pbrc.net/misc/pbrcbrochure.pdf

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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 09:52 am
Robert Gentel wrote:

So do stories about lawyers, but that has little to do with lawyers and more to do with how stories tend to be negative.

That's true. But with pit bulls, it has more to do with how they viciously attack and maim innocent people, usually children.
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 10:06 am
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5-year-old mauled by pit bull
Dog bit girl in the head, face, arms and legs while she was playing outside.


The parents of a 5-year-old girl who is recovering from a pit bull attack could be charged with child endangering pending a police investigation.

Neighbors said the victim, Payton Tunstall, was playing in the backyard of her father’s house in the 400 block of Knightsbridge Drive at around 11:25 a.m. Monday, July 13, when the attack occurred.

The pit bull, which was being kept at the residence, had gotten loose from a cage and caused serious injuries to the little girl, biting her on the head, face, legs and arms, said Hamilton police Sgt. Tom Kilgour.

The dog also attacked Payton’s mother, who was the only adult at the home when the attack occurred, Kilgour said.

The girl was in serious condition when she was flown by medical helicopter to the Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center. Her condition was not being released Monday night.

The dog was taken by the Butler County Dog Warden and is being housed at the Animal Friends Humane Society in Trenton, where it could be euthanized.

Under the city’s ordinance codes, a pit bull is automatically classified as a “vicious dog.” Residents are allowed to keep such dogs as pets, but they must be confined in secure enclosures.

Calvin Jackson, who was visiting his mother in the neighborhood Monday afternoon after the attack, said he doesn’t trust pit bulls and doesn’t agree with some who think “it’s cool to have them” and train them for dogfighting.

“I tell my kids to stay away from those dogs,” Jackson said. “They’re too moody. They’re really aggressive, even as puppies. I don’t think they like kids.”

Kilgour said investigators planned to wait until today, July 14, to talk to the parents.

“Our focus right now is for the child’s recovery,” he said.
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 11:44 am

In my opinion,
the victims woud have had a much better chance of remaining unmutilated
if thay had been possessed of the necessary emergency equipment for defense from predatory violence.

This emergency equipment can be compact and light of weight.
One is well advised to practice so as to be thoroughly familiar with it beforehand.
Experience with it shoud be taught in the schools for life-saving purposes,
the same as swimming is. We used to have competitive gunnery teams in the schools,
going back to when Congress began the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice
headed by the Director of Civilian Marksmanship around the time of the First World War.
(Obviously, it is impracticable to carry around a shoulder weapon,
but handguns are convenient.)

To the extent that government has interfered with the natural
and constitutional rights of each citizen to defend himself, or herself,
government has de facto gone into partnership with the predatory dog, cougar,
bear or human, and against the victim, so that in effect,
the victims were attacked by both the animals and the government that thay nourish with their taxes.

If civilians are sufficiently well prepared to defend themselves,
then it matters not what manner of dog falls upon him or her.

I truely believe that it is better to HAVE a gun and not need it,
than it is to NEED a gun and not have it.

I wonder how the victims shown in this thread feel on that point.

(Obviously, my thoughts in this matter cannot apply to babies
who have not grown into sufficient strength to use the equipment of self-defense.)





David
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 11:47 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
In my opinion,
the victims woud have had a much better chance of remaining unmutilated
if thay had been possessed of the necessary emergency equipment for defense from predatory violence.

...

(Obviously, my thoughts in this matter cannot apply to babies
who have not grown into sufficient strength to use the equipment of self-defense.)

But what about the 5 year old mauled in the story I reproduced above? Suppose she was old enough to be taken out to the range to practice her self-defense skills against the family pooch?
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 12:22 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
That's true. But with pit bulls, it has more to do with how they viciously attack and maim innocent people, usually children.


By this reasoning the dim view taken towards lawyers has more to do with how they cheat, steal and chase ambulances (as opposed to the bad ones giving the good ones a bad name).
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 04:08 pm
Robert there is not reasoning it just emotional driven nonsense by people who tend not to used their intellect to judge real risks.

A risk that is so low that only a society that keep detail records could even find.
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