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"My mom is never proud of me"

 
 
Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:27 pm
so said one of Mo's classmates today when I was helping out in art class and commented on a beautiful self portrait that he had made.

One girl drew a picture of herself crying.

Another boy drew a crazy looking picture and said it was how he looked when he was mad.

I'm completely freaked out.

I don't think I can go back to art class.
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:42 pm
Re: "My mom is never proud of me"
boomerang wrote:
so said one of Mo's classmates today when I was helping out in art class and commented on a beautiful self portrait that he had made.

One girl drew a picture of herself crying.

Another boy drew a crazy looking picture and said it was how he looked when he was mad.

I'm completely freaked out.

I don't think I can go back to art class.





C'est la vie......



Better out in a supportive environment than in.


Mind, you may need to save yourself for Mo....
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:46 pm
The inside of the 'normalest' kid's head can be a very odd place.


While a little of that knowledge can go a long way, it is useful knowledge.
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:49 pm
Art is therapy, often.
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:50 pm
ehBeth wrote:
The inside of the 'normalest' kid's head can be a very odd place.


<nodding>
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 04:57 pm
I thought a boy in the second-grade class drew himself crying in his self-portrait. I said something to the general teacher, but before she spoke with him, I asked him about it.

What's that?

It lines for the neck.

What? It looks like you're crying.

Nooooooo (giggles).

The art teacher had told them to make their necks the same width as the distance between the outside corners of their eyes - he'd drawn himself a dotted line.

It's always good to ask kids open-ended questions.
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 05:03 pm
littlek wrote:
It's always good to ask kids open-ended questions.


Oh yeah . . . so many adults ask kids yes or no questions, and there's no real communication.
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 04:48 pm
Okay, I'll chill -- and give art class another try but I'm not making any promises.

Elsewhere I've been in a little fisticuffs about Nancy Verrier and her book "The Primal Wound" (which I think is rubbish) and I think I'm feeling a little touchy about things.

Did you ever see that Seinfield episode where Kramer has convulsions whenever he hears Mary Hart's voice? I'm like that when someone says Nancy Verrier.
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 07:14 pm
This thread is timely. Today I went to my sister's house after school and she showed me a picture my niece had collaged. It was beautiful. It was a portrait of a woman with dark hair and red lips with her eyes closed.

Is it sideways? She looks like she's laying down.

No, she's dead.

You made a picture of a dead woman?

yes.

It's amazing that the color has drained from her lips a little, then.

She's just been struck by lightning.

I looked again and saw that she was laying on a green, grassy ground with deep and dark blue scky overhead. Wow.
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 07:48 pm
You can't tell a lot about a kid from one project, you need to see many, and see if there are themes. In any case it is rarely a good idea to editorialize, you don't want them to self censor or to try to please the adults by drawing what the adults like. Constant steady encouragement is the way to go I think.
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Reply Tue 18 Mar, 2008 10:43 pm
boomerang wrote:
Okay, I'll chill -- and give art class another try but I'm not making any promises.

Elsewhere I've been in a little fisticuffs about Nancy Verrier and her book "The Primal Wound" (which I think is rubbish) and I think I'm feeling a little touchy about things.

Did you ever see that Seinfield episode where Kramer has convulsions whenever he hears Mary Hart's voice? I'm like that when someone says Nancy Verrier.



Goddammit!


Now I have to look up Nancy Verrier and her book. You just do these things because you CAN, don't you?



That was a great episode.


Edit: I don't suppose you can tel me where this book Mary Harted you, can you?


I think I'd be kind of interested in the debate.



Only if you can bear to, of course.
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Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2008 08:04 am
Just about everything about this woman Mary Harts me. You can't have a conversation about adoption that someone doesn't drag this quack into.

Here's an interview with her:

www.birthpsychology.com/birthscene/adoption8.html
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