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A better question that: "Does god exist"

 
 
View Profile Cyracuz
 
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 08:43 am
A better question that "does god exist" is "do you exist".

Do you exist? Prove it.

If you exist, then you must be clearly distinguishable from the environment you exist in, isn't that right? If not, we would have to say that you exist, but we cannot find you anywhere. But how can we know you exist if we cannot find you.

So in order to say that you exist you must prove that you are separate from everything else...

The concept of self and the concept of god are equal in that they are both beliefs.
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 09:14 am
What are you smoking?
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View Profile George
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 09:17 am
I knew this would happen if I wore my camo shirt today.
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 10:41 am
contrex, I'm smoking keith richards.

and who said that about a camo shirt? Don't see anyone here..

But seriouesly. Give the idea some thought. It's not as wild as it sounds...
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View Profile Letty
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 11:21 am
Hey, Cyracuz. Descartes said it best, I think. Razz
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View Profile Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 02:28 pm
Hi Letty Smile
Hmm... He said that he was. He didn't say what he was.
The whole "cogitas ergo sum" business is at best a proof of existence, but it doesn't say any more than that; existence.

But it is a catchy phrase :wink:
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 09:04 pm
Remember the $5 I borrowed from you?

I don't.
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View Profile Letty
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 04:27 am
Good early morning, all.

Cyracuz, I think we once agreed that man could be spiritual and not material, but here is a tribute to your countryman, Greig. Video is not too clear, but the music is still superb, Norway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlI0l85qAtU
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View Profile contrex
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 05:35 am
Cyracuz wrote:
cogitas ergo sum


You think therefore I am?
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View Profile Francis
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 05:43 am
Sire accuse!

No, he says if you think therefore he is.

(Hence he is a figment of your imagination.)
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:01 am
Je me branle comme un putain de dingue donc j'existe.
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:05 am
J'ai le pouvoir de choix donc j'existe.
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:12 am
contrex wrote:
Je me branle comme un putain de dingue donc j'existe.


Depuis quand l'excitation de l'hypothalamus est une preuve d'existence?
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:13 am
snood wrote:
J'ai le pouvoir de choix donc j'existe.


Do you think people who live under a tyranny do not exist?
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:26 am
Francis wrote:
contrex wrote:
Je me branle comme un putain de dingue donc j'existe.


Depuis quand l'excitation de l'hypothalamus est une preuve d'existence?


l'hypothalamus d'un phantôme? La main et la bite aussi?

Pardon, je suis nul en philo... mais pour que une branlette puisse se passer, il faut que qqs trucs sont vrais...

1. un main
2. une bite
3. qqs photos d'Alizée en maillot de bain (Ou bien Zazie)
4. Madame Contrex est partie chez Maman jusqu'a 18h environ
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:32 am
Francis wrote:
snood wrote:
J'ai le pouvoir de choix donc j'existe.


Do you think people who live under a tyranny do not exist?



How very alarmist. I think living under a tyranny wouldn't take away all significant choice.
Personal right and wrong - to forgive or not, to care or not, to have faith or not, be kind or not, strive or not, hold resentments or not...
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:46 am
contrex wrote:
Pardon, je suis nul en philo...


Dans le fond, t'as raison:: tout plaisir que la main n'atteint pas, n'est qu'un leurre.
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:49 am
snood wrote:
Personal right and wrong - to forgive or not, to care or not, to have faith or not, be kind or not, strive or not, hold resentments or not...


So, those who dont exercise these rights are non-existent?
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:06 am
individuality
Yes, God exists. To find out if we exist, find a mirror and check to see if that smile is still there.
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:11 am
Have you ever seen your imaginary friend besides you, in the mirror?

I know, I know, he is capable of funny tricks...
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